re: Another JL moment: 10 Commandments coming to La public schools.

Those kids break 3 of those on their way to school.

I have no idea what he is doing, but if I didn't know any better I would think he is catering more to the people in North Louisiana.

Look, personally I don't care if they put the 10 commandments in every class room, but what are they hoping to accomplish? Are kids who come from shite homes with shite parents going to all of a sudden not become a product of their environment?

The time they have wasted on bullshite is incredible, but I am not sure why I am surprised, its the same typical Louisiana politics as usual.

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Joshjrn

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You do law stuff right? Seriously, how did HB8 not get knocked down? And since it obviously didn't, why would this be any different?

I promise I'm not asking sarcastically

What happens when little Muhammad wants the Quran in his class room?

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So glad to hear Morality is the focus

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Well, morality is the most broken aspect of the current state of society. I’m not saying that this is going to fix morality. And, I am 100% against government forcing whatever the current administration’s ideas of morality on the people. But, people’s broken moral compasses are the root of most of society’s problems. Greed, corruption, selfishness, jealousy, malice, sloth, sexual immorality- all have (IMO) put us where we are today. No amount of legislation is going to fix people. But, reminding people of the objective moral standards that made this nation the greatest nation in the history of the world is a good thing- and the most sensible place to start. America is “one nation, under God.” We’re free to worship Him in our own way, and we’re free to abstain altogether. But the more that choose the latter, the worse things will get.

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You do law stuff right? Seriously, how did HB8 not get knocked down? And since it obviously didn't, why would this be any different? I promise I'm not asking sarcastically

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I do in fact do law stuff

Fortunately it was fairly recently, so it wasn’t hard to google, but just fyi that we reuse bill numbers every legislative session, so there’s a different HB 8 every session. But with that said, Google told me we’re talking about the In God We Trust bill, so we’re on the same page.

In God We Trust, as the official motto, on currency, and in classrooms, has been challenged for many decades. Ultimately, the courts have, at least up to this point, ruled that it was essentially a performative bit of ceremony that isn’t specifically religious in nature. I don’t necessarily agree with that, and I think it’s ripe for another look, but that’s the state of the law. Here’s a summary of the status quo: LINK /

For all of the reasons that the motto isn’t considered unconstitutional, it seems pretty clear to me that requiring the placing of the Ten Commandments in classrooms is, as they are expressly and overtly religious in nature, and particular to specific religions as well. The Ten Commandments have been allowed to be placed in public spaces as long as any/all religions were afforded the same privilege. Giving it pride of place, or exclusivity, is plainly unconstitutional , in my opinion.

But if after you read that link about the motto you want to chat about it in more depth, I’m happy to

We eat up the culture wars… well this is what we get

We deserve JBE and JL

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I do in fact do law stuff

Fortunately it was fairly recently, so it wasn’t hard to google, but just fyi that we reuse bill numbers every legislative session, so there’s a different HB 8 every session. But with that said, Google told me we’re talking about the In God We Trust bill, so we’re on the same page.

In God We Trust, as the official motto, on currency, and in classrooms, has been challenged for many decades. Ultimately, the courts have, at least up to this point, ruled that it was essentially a performative bit of ceremony that isn’t specifically religious in nature. I don’t necessarily agree with that, and I think it’s ripe for another look, but that’s the state of the law. Here’s a summary of the status quo: LINK /

For all of the reasons that the motto isn’t considered unconstitutional, it seems pretty clear to me that requiring the placing of the Ten Commandments in classrooms is, as they are expressly and overtly religious in nature, and particular to specific religions as well. The Ten Commandments have been allowed to be placed in public spaces as long as any/all religions were afforded the same privilege. Giving it pride of place, or exclusivity, is plainly unconstitutional , in my opinion.

But if after you read that link about the motto you want to chat about it in more depth, I’m happy to

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Appreciate the explanation, and yea totally should have noticed the reuse of the bill numbers. That's my bad

One of my kids is in public school and I was surprised to see the In God We Trust posters all over when she started.

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Appreciate the explanation, and yea totally should have noticed the reuse of the bill numbers. That's my bad One of my kids is in public school and I was surprised to see the In God We Trust posters all over when she started.

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Haha no worries. Want to know what’s a lot of fun? When my clients ask me a question about Act ### and then look at me like I’m the incompetent one when I ask for a bit more information for clarification, when they can’t even tell me what the law is about; they just heard about it from some other inmate

But yeah, IGWT has been managing to hang on by a thread for decades, but I would be genuinely shocked to see any court, no matter how conservative, be willing to wade into the Establishment Clause quagmire that is pride of place Ten Commandments being required to be put into schools.