re: Opinion on Assisted suicide...its legal in 11 states

I have a friend who did 15 or so years ago. Had breast cancer over and over for years. They finally told her there was nothing more they could do. They went to Hawaii for the procedure - I don't believe it was technically legal.
Not that it's my business but I'm OK with it. She'd suffered enough.

Did God give animals souls? Do they choose between heaven and hell? Do animals sin? Did Jesus die on the cross so that animals might be saved? You are one misguided individual.

I'm more libertarian, but, like with guns and red flag laws (who defines a red flag vs. a yellow, etc.) I commiserate with folks who have relatives that want to go. My grandfather stopped eating months before he just... checked out and stopped breathing (I think he was 90ish). But, especially with the amount of mental illness in non seniors, the basic question starts with whether someone is mentally competent to make the decision (see one of my highlights below.)

Canada is instructive of how this shite goes off the rails quickly. Also realize that most of the countries have approved it have at least semi-socialized medicine, so these things get approved as a budget optimizer, and not something that has the best controls in place for the patient.

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Alan Nichols had a history of depression and other medical issues, but none were life-threatening. When the 61-year-old Canadian was hospitalized in June 2019 over fears he might be suicidal, he asked his brother to “bust him out” as soon as possible.

Within a month, Nichols submitted a request to be euthanized and he was killed, despite concerns raised by his family and a nurse practitioner.

His application for euthanasia listed only one health condition as the reason for his request to die: hearing loss.

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And FFS:

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The countries that allow euthanasia and assisted suicide vary in how they administer and regulate the practices, but Canada has several policies that set it apart from others. For example:

— Unlike Belgium and the Netherlands, where euthanasia has been legal for two decades, Canada doesn’t have monthly commissions to review potentially troubling cases, although it does publish yearly reports of euthanasia trends.

— Canada is the only country that allows nurse practitioners, not just doctors, to end patients’ lives. Medical authorities in its two largest provinces, Ontario and Quebec, explicitly instruct doctors not to indicate on death certificates if people died from euthanasia.

— Belgian doctors are advised to avoid mentioning euthanasia to patients since it could be misinterpreted as medical advice. The Australian state of Victoria forbids doctors from raising euthanasia with patients. There are no such restrictions in Canada. The association of Canadian health professionals who provide euthanasia tells physicians and nurses to inform patients if they might qualify to be killed, as one of their possible “clinical care options.”

— Canadian patients are not required to have exhausted all treatment alternatives before seeking euthanasia, as is the case in Belgium and the Netherlands.

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I'm against physician assisted suicide.

But I'm more libertarian on the idea of assisted suicide.

I mean how hard is it to overdose?

Everyone here makes it seem like it's difficult. It's easy to find out the dose required to overdose.

Physicians have been off the record helping in suicide for decades. Whatever you do don't take 3 of these tablets together at once or you will peacefully fall asleep and not wake up.

They have literally done that for decades. I think there should be help for terminally ill patients. My point is it doesn't have to be physicians.

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I have never understood wny some people want the government to sanction their suicide.

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I think deep down, people realize suicide is wrong. If they get the state to participate, it sort of rids their consciences of any guilt.
It’s the same with abortion. If it’s legal nationally, it lessens the guilt of those participating.

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If it alleviates pain and suffering or there is no hope for recovery, I am all for it. If it is like Canada uses it, no way.

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Problem is slippery slope theory

Starts out limited, ends up in 20 years mass killings

Yeah I have zero problem with this

Watching family members with terminal prognosis suffer and wither away is terrible

The government is adopting a host of anti natal policies, policies that discourage marriage, and discourage child birth. They’re also pushing drug use and now suicide.

The whole thing looks very intentional to me.

This is an example of why the Founders employed the "separation of Church and State" principle, when they designed a Constitutional Republic based on God-given, inalienable individual Rights. They knew that Freedom comes with the innate assumption that such can only long exist within a cultural paradigm wherein the people are "moral and religious". Irreconcilable philosophical differences/problems arise when the culture changes from Religious-based to Secular. Think abortion as well.

If the State - via the will of the people aka Democracy - chooses to take a side and interfere with the personal Freedom of either Religious or Secular people, then the State will lose cred from the side that is offended. And such will inevitably lead to a war for the formal reins of power. Which is where we are.

IMO, re Assisted Suicide, the State should neither punish nor promote an individual's freedom to end their life. The State should neither condone, offer/subsidize drugs or punish individuals who - via the free market - make acquisition of said life-ending drugs easily available. Fentanyl is very affordable. And unlike abortion, there is no harm done to another individual in the personal suicide process. NWS societal decay.

For Religious people, any spiritual repercussions will be between them and their God at their 'Judgment'...and for Secular people, the consequences will be worldly. For a secular parent who chooses the option of suicide based on a quality-of-life criteria, they might want to consider that their children are watching, and that we older folk know, that mental quality of life scenarios come and go. On top one day and on bottom the next; such is life, and that is what builds character. Albeit children are impulsive and may choose unwisely re irrevocable suicide, if they believe that there is no life after this one. I.e. no hope anyway. No hope = indifference and no motivation to bear the hardships of life. That is curse of Secular (no God) belief.