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re: Is there a reason why hockey uniforms haven't become more ergonomically pleasing?

Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:07 am to
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:07 am to
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I struggle to understand why they don't wear facemasks (like in college hockey). Crazy to risk losing teeth just because that's what everyone does. They deserve better head/face protection if you ask me.


I've thought that for a while, but I never played hockey. So, it could just be a thing that is accepted. I feel the same way about the lack of wide brimmed hats for professional golfers. These guys are outside all day for usually 6 days a week when they are playing. Not only is it healthier to protect your face and neck from the sun, but a wide brimmed hat would help with the lightbulb look so many players have when they remove their caps. I know they don't look as good as baseball hats, but I figured it would be more common on golfers by now.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:46 am to
First, the players care more about being protected than looking good. The players are probably wearing more padding now then in the past. If that's the case, they don't want everyone knowing about it, so they prefer loose fitting jerseys and pants. Also think hockey fans are like MLB and College Football fans when it comes to changing uniforms. They don't like seeing changes.



I liked LSU's less shiny 1970's pants better then the ones they wear now.


I also liked the larger numbers than what they wear now..

Old Numbers:
Now:

I liked the full shoulder stripe instead of it coming to a square end like now



I really liked the numbers being on their shoulders the way they were in the 1950's more too.

This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 10:49 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:50 am to
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Now:


Now = 10 years ago??
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:08 am to
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struggle to understand why they don't wear facemasks (like in college hockey).
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Sight lines. Lots of guys dont like that they make everyone wear visors now.

Dudes hate the full faced masks worn when they have a facial injury too.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:14 am to
They're still wearing smaller numbers. You can tell how small they are on an OL.





The numbers used to look big on skill position guys. Now they look small on linemen. I just like the larger numbers better.

I think the numbers were taller and farther apart too. They took up more room on the jerseys.

This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 11:30 am
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:53 pm to
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struggle to understand why they don't wear facemasks (like in college hockey). Crazy to risk losing teeth just because that's what everyone does. They deserve better head/face protection if you ask me.


A few things. First and foremost, it's against hockey culture. The players take pride in being tough as absolute nails. You literally cannot be a LeBron and be accepted in hockey. Sidney Crosby got a *lot* of shite in his first few years for being a whiney bitch, and for not being tough. He got better, for sure.

In addition, the lack of protection actually makes the game somewhat safer. Similar to rugby, the players don't forget that they're vulnerable out there. Having your mouth and nose exposed reminds you just how close you are to the action kn the ice. Fewer dangerous risks are taken. They've even discussed softening elbow protection for this very reason - too many players were using hard cap elbow pads as weapons. Football helmets encourage risky heads hots. Hockey helmets do not.

Finally, as others have mentioned, tight fitting hockey jerseys restrict movement *way* too much. Reebok tried this back 15 years ago or so, and the players hated it. The game is too fluid and too fast to be encumbered by a useless restriction designed purely for esthetics.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6831 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:56 pm to
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The players take pride in being tough as absolute nails. You literally cannot be a LeBron and be accepted in hockey. Sidney Crosby got a *lot* of shite in his first few years for being a whiney bitch, and for not being tough. He got better, for sure.

the main reason for a lack of bitching about the refs in hockey is the game doesn't stop for 45 seconds every other minute. if you stopped to bitch about the refs the other team is taking the puck the other way.

it was shocking the leading goalscorer in the league missed a playoff game with an injury this year in the NHL
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 12:58 pm
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:16 pm to
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It was shocking the leading goalscorer in the league missed a playoff game with an injury this year in the NHL
I remember seven guys on the team that didn't miss games in the playoffs had surgeries the week after the Stars won The Stanley Cup. They played through injuries that would sideline most guys in other sports.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:00 pm to
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remember seven guys on the team that didn't miss games in the playoffs had surgeries the week after the Stars won The Stanley Cup. They played through injuries that would sideline most guys in other sports.


Peter Forsberg played a game after his spleen ruptured. Paul Kariya, who wasn't a bruiser by any stretch, had the Off the Ice, On the Board play against the Devils back in '02.

Gretzky once said that he knew the Isles were better than his Oilers when he walked past their dressing room after winning the Cup, and they weren't celebrating. They were gassed, destroyed, and hurt. He knew what sacrifice was required in order to win at a high level after that.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Peter Forsberg played a game after his spleen ruptured. Paul Kariya, who wasn't a bruiser by any stretch, had the Off the Ice, On the Board play against the Devils back in '02.

but MJ played a game with a hangover
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15540 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:13 pm to
Material of hockey sweaters has changed substantially.

Hot/Cold sports materials for uniforms in both football and hockey have gotten so much better in just the last few decades. Everything is so much more comfortable and better.

I just think Hockey likes the baggy sweater design. NHL did some Reebok jerseys in an all star game (somewhere in the mid-late 2000s I think) that were pretty form fitting. Everyone hated them.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 5:17 pm
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8620 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:09 pm to
This is the answer. Full cage in hockey really restricts your vision on the ice. Visors are better but nothing like no shield at all.

Hockey is so fast you need to have good vision of the ice, especially peripheral vision.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8620 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:14 pm to
Oh, and you want your hockey sweater loose so as not to restrict your movement. Simple as that.

Nothing worse than going to take a shot and having your jersey "grab" you.

I used to tuck my jersey up into my breezers on the right side because when I would go to shoot I didn't like the jersey grabbing and creeping up that side.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 10:15 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34858 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:24 am to
Fun fact: those numbers on top of the shoulder pads used to be called "TV numbers". Helped spotters identify players quicker.
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
949 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:17 am to
Kind of agree. I played for about 12-13 years as a kid. I played ice and roller hockey. I preferred the roller uniform due to the pants. I didn’t wear padded shorts underneath but some did. I taped below knee and at ankle so the pants were tight. Most pants had kidney padding. Tucked my jerseys at waist and sleeves into elbow pads. With ice you had to wear padded shorts and I hated the socks and garter. Mask wise it used a chrome mask bc it was easier to see through than black or white. Plastic got foggy.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:51 pm to
Lol those nfl uniforms look like shite
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10336 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

The players are probably wearing more padding now then in the past.


You serious Clark?








Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21598 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:26 pm to
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ergonomically pleasing?


I bet you have your "pronouns" listed in your real email signature.

Hockey uniforms haven't changed because they are cool the way they are and have been for a long time.

Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40859 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:30 pm to
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it seems weird to have big baggy shirt sleeves hanging down to your wrists instead of tapered sleeves with padding on the arms (and same for the non tapered hem of the sweaters around the midsection).



You answered your own question. It's because they are "sweaters", not traditional uniforms or "jerseys".
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31325 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:34 pm to
Goalie's uniforms are intentionally made massive. The more fabric the better chances some part of it catches the puck.
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