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Saints are embracing a "soft reset"

Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:35 am
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:35 am
No big, back-loaded free agent deals. Almost all FA on 1 yr deals. They let some good players walk last year (mostly to Atlanta) rather than overpaying. They didn't trade away next year's draft for players now.

I think they're finally trying to reset after the "all-in" years with Drew and Sean, something Payton wouldn't allow. If DA flames out this season, the new staff will come in with a cleaner slate - all of their draft picks and some money for free agents.

One thing this does tell me, though, is Loomis feels his job security is rock solid, otherwise he'd be mortgaging the future.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10617 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:37 am to
They prepping to fire Allen.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
6045 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:44 am to
I’m pretty good with it actually
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64380 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:54 am to
It feels great.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16203 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:56 am to
I’m completely fine with it if this is the direction. Let Allen drive the tank and a new staff come in with pieces to play.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59334 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Saints are embracing a "soft reset"


No doubt. I like it.

quote:

One thing this does tell me, though, is Loomis feels his job security is rock solid,


And I know people will disagree who stay all up in their feels about Mickey. But I think his job security is an advantage. The new ones with little security do mortgage the future, like you suggest Mickey is not.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
14732 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:02 am to
I mean it's the perfect time. ATL and TB just signed QBs to 9 figure deals and Carolina just invested their future into a 5'9 QB with zero supporting cast...they'll be spending their future trying to make it work now.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54201 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:08 am to
The problem with that is that the team needs a “hard” reset yesterday.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278756 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:46 am to
There’s no such thing as a soft reset
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
4398 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:25 pm to
Either be rebuilding or competing for a title. This in-between, 9-8 record borderline playoff team is shite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423476 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:55 pm to
I believe you are correct here. I have been thinking about this and there was a thread about Taysom Hill yesterday, and it made me realize we didn't restructure him. I don't know if there is a stronger sign of this reset.

Not trading future picks yesterday was a big thing, too.

Now, I don't know how organic this is, but I think the Ram/Latt issues forced their hands. The shitty part was we had to restructure Carr, but we may have dug ourselves out somewhat by 2027.
Posted by Whodat4300
Tennessee
Member since Jul 2020
305 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:46 am to
Sounds good to me.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4336 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:39 am to
Winning teams are built through the draft, not FA. FA is how you get into cap trouble. Teams that succeed have a solid base, but fill around them with younger players who are on their cheap rookie deals.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 4:33 am to
DA isn’t going anywhere. Why do you think Klint and all of those coaches, some with multiple super bowls, came here? Their relationships with each other and Allen specifically
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4002 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 7:35 am to
Best case for this season is Derek Carr comes out playing really well and we can trade him off. Signing him to a 4 year deal was a disaster, IMO.
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
4919 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by David Bowman
Member since Jul 2019
200 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 5:54 pm to
It's become clear to me that a hard rest or traditional "tanking" rarely works. The teams with the best Superbowl odds next season are the 49ers, Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, Lions, Bills, Cowboys, and Eagles. Only the Bengals got there by tanking. Have to draft well. Need good coaching (though I'm side-eying Dallas and Philly). But you should always be trying to win, even if you'll never get a top 10 pick. Heck, the Rams spit on your 1st round picks. If your team is ready, you can always trade down for a QB like Buffalo and KC did. Or get one later like the Ravens, Eagles, or Dallas. Main thing is to have a legit team around him to maximize his potential early (and take advantage of the cap savings).
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67214 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:49 pm to
My hope is that the new offensive system starts to click midseason once the offensive line gels, Carr plays consistently better down the stretch, and the Saints make the playoffs this season with at least 10 regular season wins.

In year two, after adding a few key pieces on the lines, the team looks good early, but Carr goes down with an injury for a month giving Rattler time to show flashes, win ing just enough to keep them in contention. Carr comes back, and the team makes a deeper playoff run as Carr plays like a top 10 QB down the stretch. Saints lose in the conference championship game.

In year 3, Carr is traded for an early/mid first round pick to give Rattler the best weapon in the draft, and the other first rounder is spent on a dominant defensive player. The youth movement gives them flexibility in free agency allowing them to take flyers on a couple wiley veterans on prove-it deals that work out. Saints win a superbowl.

Rattler makes it to a second deal and starts a dynasty.
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