re: Question re: Hard Drug Use:

I did ice 1 time on lunch break when I worked at a rice mill years and years ago, when I came back to work, I got a payraise by the end of the day

But I did not enjoy the laying in bed for 12 hours sweating and not sleeping so that was a short lived experience for me.

Other than that, coke would be the next hardest thing but that was easy to put down when my son came into the world, shite I don't even drink.

California sober these days

I did that a few times when I was drinking. Would lose balance very easy. But quit drinking so that problem is now gone.

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Try shooting it straight into your veins.

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Only way to do drugs imo. Although I just got out of treatment so avoid doing anything I say

My Dad's family were all cops....one of them ended up working for the DEA. He once gathered all the high school aged kids together in the 1980s and lays out in front of us weed, coke and pills and a bag of heroin. Says with the weed. Go ahead take it because I really don't give a frick about that. Looks at the coke and the pills and says this shite is dangerous but you can come back from it, but then I'm gonna beat you.

Then he takes the bag of heroin and says, " see this shite, you heat this shite up in a spoon and inject it....it's fricking love....and if I find out any of you have fallen in love with this bitch", he then takes out his gun and says , " I'll do you myself, if you don't kill yourself first." He was dead serious. Scared the frick out of me ,at least, but none of us ever touched the stuff or coke.

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It sounds like from the tone of your response you've gotten a handle on the problem and are now doing well, and if so, congrats to you for doing so.

I'm 71 and his mother is 65, and at this stage of our lives we just don't need the drama that comes with HIS problem.

I told his mom years ago when I first realized he was having a drug problem and refusing to seek help to get over it that his addiction is a choice he made as an adult and not of any consequence of what we did raising him.

He had a good upbringing with a stable home life, attended good schools as a youth and was academically gifted--------Unfortunately, he absolutely has no common sense when it comes to making good life decisions.


I'm pretty sure if he ever cleans up his life and kicks the habit, he too will have regrets about a lot of things he's done in life.

Maybe the thought of that is what's keeping him seeking the drugs because facing reality sober can be a pretty daunting thing when he's had a history of using people to the point they no longer want anything to do with him.

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Thank God, yes sir.

Unfortunately, at 39 he knows what he is doing and probably has known for a very long time. Your upbringing doesn't spare you. Heck, it probably hinders a bunch of people. I come from an amazing family from top to bottom. I was the outlier with this problem of mine but that was my cross, not my mom's or dads. They warned me plenty about the harm of drinking/drugging. My parents might have 1 - 2 beers a year and that's at an Astros game. So, I literally had zero reason to ever be in the position I was in yet there I was.

The regrets are severe depending on how long you were out there. A lot of mine revolve around time and waste. I don't let it get me down I just shake my head at what could've been. When you are a functioning addict your funds dont dry up like others and can advance things in a bad for you.

You could be correct with your last statement. For me personally it was withdraws. If he's been using for years he's to a point where he has to use, there is no other choice for him. When the withdrawal kicks in for someone whos been using for 5-10 years straight there are consequences, and they are they are severe.

After my 3rd rehab I understood why people take hotshots or outright commit suicide.

Tried meth once as a 16 yo in a rest stop off I26 on the way to a Boston concert. Someone in our caravan told me to snort something, and then I thought the top of my head would blow off. All I'd ever done up to that point was drink beer and smoke weed, but I liked to maintain control. Never tried meth (or crack or heroin) after that.

I wasn't interested in meth even though friends in Natchitoches Parish (I was 18) loved it. I watched them shoot it up once - I knew after that I was safe: No high in this world is worth sticking a needle in your arm for. A couple of these guys got pretty strung out.

A couple years later I was selling computers in Alec (while going to school) and my strung out friend showed up at my office asking for money. Looked like he had aged 10 years. I gave him some cash but then he had locked the keys in his mothers car. He was coming down hard and suddenly said "phuck it" and smashed the side window, grabbed the keys and took off. I heard he wound up in jail.

I might have tried acid once or twice, but nothing other than alcohol or weed since my teen years. Quit weed at 19 when my father found it in my possession twice. He challenged me to a fight and said if I win, I could keep smoking. I didn't fight him but instead didn't smoke weed for a long, long time.

And now I like being stone cold sober 95% of the time. Feel sorry for folks who need something to numb them continually just to get by.

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Yeah, Cousin Tony did not mix words. A very direct man. When my boys got old enough, I gave them his speech that he gave to me , my brothers and cousins....minus the bag of heroin but with the unloaded .357 on the table.....and I was dead serious.
I've seen how that stuff ruins lives.

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I know you mean well but there's a big difference between a DEA agent doing that vs your dad. Pulling that on your kids I can see completely backfiring on you and pushing them to drug use not away (and hating you while they're at it).

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California sober

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Never heard that term. I like it.