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re: Crowd work has ruined standup comedy

Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10604 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:41 pm to
I used to go to NYC during the summers and just hang around the comedy clubs getting wasted.

One thing I learned is anything goes after 10 in the sense you'll get the polished stuff for the 7 or 9 shows.

The "working it out" stuff happens at the later shows for the semi known people. Not gonna lie. It was dang near 50/50 whether they was gonna get booed by some drunks. Seen some mediocre sets come through there even by Attell at 1AM.

That comedy cellar underground...I think 80% of the people got booed of the stage.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43218 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:43 pm to
A lot of comedians have scripted crowd work with a planted heckler.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7778 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:45 pm to
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I think Matt Rife is pretty funny for the most part, but i also think he's a one trick pony. i've seen enough of his stuff now that the formula / routine
Have you seen an actual show, or just the crowd work stuff on social media? His live show is like 70-80 minutes with maybe 15-20 minutes of crowd work. The dude's actual set is pretty damn funny. He is quick with the crowd work and obviously uses his appeal or ick to the female audience members to his advantage, but his actual set is pretty good.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1670 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:46 pm to
Dave Attell will slaughter a crowd...and he writes great jokes.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10604 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:47 pm to
Most of the stuff you get at comedy shows is crowd work today. They'll play off the crowd. You're not getting a hour of straight material.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54760 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:48 pm to
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I used to go to NYC during the summers and just hang around the comedy clubs getting wasted.

One thing I learned is anything goes after 10 in the sense you'll get the polished stuff for the 7 or 9 shows.

The "working it out" stuff happens at the later shows for the semi known people. Not gonna lie. It was dang near 50/50 whether they was gonna get booed by some drunks. Seen some mediocre sets come through there even by Attell at 1AM.

Rogan has brought this back, and even Redban's club. They allow zero recording by anyone. Maybe they allow the comedian to record their set, but no phones or cameras are allowed. This day and age in comedy everything you say can and will be used against you. Working things out on stage got damn near impossible. It seems clubs are finally protecting acts again now.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13701 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:49 pm to
Mark Normand getting topics from the crowd and making a joke on the spot is pretty hilarious.

Plus he's Nola guy.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2022
4770 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Have you seen an actual show, or just the crowd work stuff on social media? His live show is like 70-80 minutes with maybe 15-20 minutes of crowd work. The dude's actual set is pretty damn funny. He is quick with the crowd work and obviously uses his appeal or ick to the female audience members to his advantage, but his actual set is pretty good.

i havent. will have to check it out. he is funny and likeable, i've just gotten tired of the same shtick i see on IG over and over. i'll check out his other stuff.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73008 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Political Correctness and Totalitarian Progressivism ruined comedy.


Along with pretty much everything else that used to be great about American culture.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33956 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:54 pm to
Crowd work is unique to each show so it gives them unlimited content for social media to promote themselves.

They can’t show their actual jokes because those are copyrighted and no one would attend if you knew all the jokes of a tour beforehand…so without these crowd work clips it would just be recycled jokes from previous specials only which would get old quick

It hasn’t ruined anything, social media has just allowed a platform for crowd work to be seen. If anything, the real issue is now people in the crowd are more obnoxious with heckling because of it
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:55 pm to
stand ups going to on podcast only to pontificate about the art of stand up has ruined comedians for me.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52910 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:57 pm to
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Louis J Gomez and Nick Mullen drop hard Rs


what's a "hard R"???
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
2999 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:02 pm to
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I don’t know why but I want to blame Dane Cook.


Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9540 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:05 pm to
All I know is Shane Gillis’ special “Beautiful Dogs” is one of the funniest specials I’ve ever seen.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25341 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:06 pm to
I dunno, seems clever enough from what little I have seen.

Sorta like Andrew The Dice Man Clay… not necessarily for everyone.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13701 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:11 pm to
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All I know is Shane Gillis’ special “Beautiful Dogs” is one of the funniest specials I’ve ever seen.



Dude is hilarious.

I bet he is fun as shite to get a few drinks with.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4575 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:14 pm to
He's pretty good at what he does and gets a following because he's an attractive guy that's quick witted.

quote:

His act is almost entirely 100% crowd work and its pretty godawful.

Honestly just sounds like you're jealous.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:15 pm to
They don’t want to burn material for clips so crowd work is easy to post.

It’s just supposed to get your attention so you go see them live or watch their actual act when a special comes out
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4398 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
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It's not a good comparison, but I watch Dave Portnoy pizza reviews for a similar reason


You're right. Dave Portnoy to John Mulaney for comedy is a terrible comparison.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3023 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:34 pm to
Jimmy Pardo said on his podcast one time that the late night talent bookers didn't give him a regular shot because he didn't have an act. He has an album I think of all crowd work.
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