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UK parliament one step closer to passing landmark smoking ban
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:57 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:57 am
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The British government's plan for a landmark smoking ban that aims to stop young people from ever smoking cleared its first hurdle in Parliament on Tuesday despite vocal opposition from within Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s Conservative Party.
Under the Tobacco and Vapes Bill, children turning 15 this year or younger will never be legally sold tobacco. Once implemented — officials are aiming for 2027 — the legal age of sale that people in England can buy cigarettes will be raised by one year, every year until it is eventually illegal for the whole population.
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:59 am to TejasHorn
They have to save us from ourselves. We are helpless without them.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:01 am to TejasHorn
People will bitch about "muh freedom" but when the gov't pays for your healthcare I think they can have a say on eliminating things that are adverse to people's health.
In a perfect world tobacco would be widely available, but govt wouldn't subsidize healthcare, so feel free to smoke yourself to death because you're the only one paying for the health effects.
In a perfect world tobacco would be widely available, but govt wouldn't subsidize healthcare, so feel free to smoke yourself to death because you're the only one paying for the health effects.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:02 am to TejasHorn
So the same government flooding their country with illegals immigrants which is causing a massive spike in their rape and murders is now restricting the rights of their citizens?
We would all just be so helpless snd lost if they didn't tell us how to live our lives snd exactly what we can and can't do.
We would all just be so helpless snd lost if they didn't tell us how to live our lives snd exactly what we can and can't do.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:05 am to TejasHorn
Socialized medical care requires this. Can’t have the added cost of tobacco ailments.
What nobody is looking at is the extended longevity that will be a result. They’ll be providing care for people who would have died 20 or 30 years earlier, as they get into their frail years. $$$
What nobody is looking at is the extended longevity that will be a result. They’ll be providing care for people who would have died 20 or 30 years earlier, as they get into their frail years. $$$
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 7:08 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:07 am to Solo Cam
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So the same government flooding their country with illegals immigrants which is causing a massive spike in their rape and murders is now restricting the rights of their citizens?
The government that foots the bill for its citizens healthcare is mitigating the ridiculous cost of care for tobacco-related conditions.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:09 am to slinger1317
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People will bitch about "muh freedom" but when the gov't pays for your healthcare I think they can have a say on eliminating things that are adverse to people's health.
In a perfect world tobacco would be widely available, but govt wouldn't subsidize healthcare, so feel free to smoke yourself to death because you're the only one paying for the health effects.
more government always leads to more government.
It aggravates the f*ck out of me that my tax dollars are subsidizing other people's poor choices.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:10 am to TheHarahanian
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What nobody is looking at is the extended longevity that will be a result.
Bingo. The real threat to the NHS is old people. And they deal with that by just denying care to them. It is a really fricked up situation over there. Of course it’s great if you’re in your 20s or 30s and need to visit the doctor for something minor.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:11 am to slinger1317
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People will bitch about "muh freedom" but when the gov't pays for your healthcare I think they can have a say on eliminating things that are adverse to people's health.
The people in England no longer have any freedom.
Where does this all end? Beer, burgers, candy, meat, etc. are all supposedly unhealthy for you also. Once a tyrannical government starts taking freedoms, it will never stop until it is destroyed.
We are currently heading that direction as well, they are just further along the path.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:11 am to TejasHorn
In the US, there would be videos of people getting tazed over not putting the cigarette out when asked
That and somehow, someway it would be called racist
That and somehow, someway it would be called racist
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:17 am to TejasHorn
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Under the Tobacco and Vapes Bill, children turning 15 this year or younger will never be legally sold tobacco. Once implemented — officials are aiming for 2027 — the legal age of sale that people in England can buy cigarettes will be raised by one year, every year until it is eventually illegal for the whole population.
In no way will this create a black market for such products.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:18 am to TejasHorn
Im on board with banning cigarettes.
Do it to alcohol and I’ll riot.
Do it to alcohol and I’ll riot.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:19 am to Loup
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more government always leads to more government.
It aggravates the f*ck out of me that my tax dollars are subsidizing other people's poor choices.
I'm small government AF but this ban would help lower that.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:20 am to 0x15E
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Im on board with banning cigarettes.
Do it to alcohol and I’ll riot.
I'll be right there with you. Unfortunately, Molotov cocktails won't be in the arsenal. Can't afford to waste the alcohol.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:20 am to pankReb
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I'm small government AF but this ban would help lower that.
yeah but it'd also set a precedent for banning more sh*t. What's next? Burgers? Beer? Pasta?
I know that cats pretty much out of the bag already. I do get the point about if other people are paying for your healthcare then they kind of deserve a say in what you're doing to your body.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 7:23 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:21 am to TejasHorn
In 2024 you know the possible consequences if you smoke. I have no issue if someone wants to smoke, but I’m wondering how is it even legal to sell such a product .
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Cigarettes release thousands of different chemicals when they burn, including carbon monoxide, lead, and ammonia.
Many components of tobacco are poisonous, and up to 70 cause cancer.
Smoking is also linked to other serious illnesses, including lung disease, heart disease and strokes.
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Cigarettes release thousands of different chemicals when they burn, including carbon monoxide, lead, and ammonia.
Many components of tobacco are poisonous, and up to 70 cause cancer.
Smoking is also linked to other serious illnesses, including lung disease, heart disease and strokes.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:23 am to slinger1317
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People will bitch about "muh freedom" but when the gov't pays for your healthcare I think they can have a say on eliminating things that are adverse to people's health.
Should govt pay for a knee replacement for a person who spent decades running on pavement? We’ve known for a long time this is bad on the joints.
Should govt fund kidney replacement for someone who refused to make lifestyle choices to get their BP under control?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:24 am to TejasHorn
I travel to the UK for work quite a bit. They are surprisingly Socialist and you would be shocked at how conditioned their Citizens have become. They say things like "oh we aren't allowed to do that here" and "they don't let us do that" when referring to the Government and freedoms we take for granted. Their unquestioning willingness to quietly just line up (queue up) is an indicator. I often say that if you stand still for a minute people will line up behind you.
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