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Little known but very telling baseball statistics
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:53 am
With all the talk about the team's statistics, both overall and in the SEC, I want to bring up a couple of measures that few people look at but can be very revealing about the state of a team's offensive approach and production. These are walks per plate appearances (not ABs) and strike outs per plate appearance. While walks aren't as glamorous as home runs, they are an integral part of a team's offense, and it goes without saying that strike outs take away from offensive production. Ideally, the walks per plate appearance should be at least .200 or above, while the strike outs per plate appearance should be .100 or less, or at least less than .150. So far this year, LSU's are the following:
Overall
W/plate appearance .130
K/plate appearance .205
SEC
W/plate appearance .122
K/plate appearance .299
This demonstrates a clear lack of plate discipline and a poor overall approach at the plate. If this trend continues, there really is no way to right this ship from an offensive standpoint.
Overall
W/plate appearance .130
K/plate appearance .205
SEC
W/plate appearance .122
K/plate appearance .299
This demonstrates a clear lack of plate discipline and a poor overall approach at the plate. If this trend continues, there really is no way to right this ship from an offensive standpoint.
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:58 am to TigerMac81
Good post.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:00 am to TigerMac81
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team's offensive
agreed
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:08 am to TigerMac81
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Little known
I don't think BB rate and K rate are little known statistics.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:10 am to TigerMac81
Okay, now show the individual stats
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:11 am to ProjectP2294
Maybe, but they are rarely, if ever, reported in official statistics.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:11 am to TigerMac81
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This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:12 am to GetmorewithLes
I'll look into it.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:14 am to CalTiger53
Those numbers don't lie. If you strike out 30% of your plate appearances, you won't win many games.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:22 am to TigerMac81
But But But don't blame JJ 
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:39 am to TigerMac81
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SEC
W/plate appearance .122
K/plate appearance .299
You said plate appearances (not ABs), but it looks like you used the number for At Bats instead. In SEC play we've had 506 ABs, 585 Plate appearances, 151 Ks, & 62 BBs
I think the numbers should be..
W/plate appearance .102
K/plate appearance .258
ETA: recency comparison... Tennessee.
580 PA
505 ABs
65 BB
139 Ks/
W/plate appearance .112
K/plate appearance .240
Our numbers are not very different from Tenn. who has managed to go 10-5 in the SEC so far.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:59 am to notbilly
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This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:08 pm to notbilly
My mistake. I stand corrected. The numbers are still awful.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:12 pm to notbilly
So what's your explanation for the worst SEC record in forty-seven years?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:20 pm to TigerMac81
I think this team takes too many strikes. Statistically, batting averages are much lower in pitchers counts. I think Jay overthinks things at time and that forces the hitters to want to replicate his thoughts in the AB. Just let them go up there and swing at strikes, no matter the count. When I played college ball, the only time my coach dictated our swings was if it was late inning and we were playing catch up. We would have to take the first strike then.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:20 pm to TigerMac81
I always appreciate the stats. Thanks.
It’s the worst stretch or start. The season is not complete. Not that it changes the point of your question.
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worst SEC record in forty-seven years?
It’s the worst stretch or start. The season is not complete. Not that it changes the point of your question.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:26 pm to TigerMac81
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So what's your explanation for the worst SEC record in forty-seven years?
A team playing at 80% hustle capacity thinking they're playing at 100%.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:28 pm to Asleepinthecove
They also swing at too many pitcher's pitches on the first two strikes.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:34 pm to notbilly
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You said plate appearances (not ABs), but it looks like you used the number for At Bats instead.
coming from someone who (probably obviously) doesn't know that much about the ins and outs of baseball, how can you have a "plate appearance" without an "at bat?" Is an "at bat" just considered anything but a walk?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:36 pm to TigerMac81
Totally agree with the poor approach but not with the lack of discipline. LSU’s hitters are constantly having to hit with two strikes and they get into that situations because they take way too many pitches. In other words, too disciplined. Statistically, the odds of a hitter being successful go down with each strike so with 2 strikes they are super low. Hitting a baseball is arguably the hardest thing to do in sports so why in the hell would you eliminate 1 or even 2 of your swings? Wanna avoid Ks, hit earlier in the count.
Watch their ABs and its pretty clear.
Watch their ABs and its pretty clear.
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