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re: What amazes me about the abortion issue....
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:32 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:32 am to Robin Masters
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Boomers were in peak abortion having years in the 70's. Not surprising the largest generation skewed the numbers.
Um, read the chart and its text better. Larger population not skewing any numbers. Those are proportionate figures, not total figures-- number of abortions per 1,000 women.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:38 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I actually agree with you on this one point. That position is hypocritical.
I'm not speaking to stopping abortions. I'm speaking to the hypocritical position that abortion is murder, but it's OK if it's an incest baby.
quote:I do, however just as a war may be unwinnable and not worth the cost, even if it's a worthy cause, so too can this fight not be winnable using the tactics expected (blowing up buildings and killing doctors), on top of the moral implications of individuals taking justice into their own hands.
You don't agree with Defense of Others?
quote:Evangelism, showing people the fault of their beliefs on this issue, and political activism are all valid ways to engage in this war.
You do you, but if I actually believed babies were being murdered by the millions, I'd do a lot more than vote for people who use the issue as a political football
This is essentially the equivalent of German citizens struggling with how to rightly address the issue with their government participating in the extermination of a large group of people. Those good citizens could have just attacked and killed Nazi soldiers whenever they could, but it would absolutely have been a losing strategy. Secretly supporting the war effort against their own government in that instance was a better strategy to end that evil practice.
With the issue of abortion, there are other tactics that are needed to address it. Killing doctors and nurses is not the right nor moral way.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 10:40 am
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:48 am to Lake08
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politics. Why? Because they are all opinions and there is no right/wrong definite answers. It’s just too bad that people just can’t respect someone’s opinion and move on.
When someone's opinion votes for lawmakers who put laws into effect to disarm me, tax me, silence me, and let millions of undocumented people into the area I live in it becomes more than someone's harmless opinion.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:54 am to LB84
Never said harmless. I will somewhat agree with you that politics are factual occurrences that are happening that make discussion on the subject easier.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:55 am to FooManChoo
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I actually agree with you on this one point. That position is hypocritical.
Of course it is.
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I do, however just as a war may be unwinnable and not worth the cost, even if it's a worthy cause, so too can this fight not be winnable using the tactics expected (blowing up buildings and killing doctors)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and see horses, chariots, and an enemy larger than yours, do not be afraid of them, for the Lord your God, who brought you of the land of Egypt, is with you."
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on top of the moral implications of individuals taking justice into their own hands.
To what moral implications are you referring?
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Evangelism, showing people the fault of their beliefs on this issue, and political activism are all valid ways to engage in this war.
OK, but I don't think the response is appropriately scaled to the belief.
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This is essentially the equivalent of German citizens struggling with how to rightly address the issue with their government participating in the extermination of a large group of people. Those good citizens could have just attacked and killed Nazi soldiers whenever they could, but it would absolutely have been a losing strategy. Secretly supporting the war effort against their own government in that instance was a better strategy to end that evil practice.
You do know there was an active resistance, filled with German citizens killing Nazis, right?
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Killing doctors and nurses is not the right nor moral way.
You're the only one who keeps bringing up killing doctors and nurses.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:10 am to GoAwayImBaitn
What amazes me about abortion is nobody on either side ever discusses the price. When I was in HS some girls sitting next to me were discussing it. One girl said confidently: 'An abortion costs $175.'
The other girls looked at her in utter shock. She turned red faced and stuttered: 'Well...uh, at least that's what I've heard.'
I tried not to laugh at her plight but I cracked up.
The other girls looked at her in utter shock. She turned red faced and stuttered: 'Well...uh, at least that's what I've heard.'
I tried not to laugh at her plight but I cracked up.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:11 am to GoAwayImBaitn
We need to make the mother look at her aborted fetus.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:12 am to TD422
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Are you really arguing that abortions respect the personal liberties of aborted children?
Children aren’t aborted.
So you believe the government’s job is to police its citizens to ensure non-citizens are protected at all costs. Do you feel the same way about immigrants?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:13 am to GoAwayImBaitn
Its too bad nobody has invented a way to still be able to have sex and prevent unwanted pregnancy at the same time.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:13 am to 4cubbies
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So you believe the government’s job is to police its citizens to ensure non-citizens are protected at all costs. Do you feel the same way about immigrants?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:15 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Nope.
I asked before I read page 2.
It looks like you support others being able to get an abortion with no limits because you don't think the government should restrict. Did I get that right?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:18 am to moneyg
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I asked before I read page 2.
It looks like you support others being able to get an abortion with no limits because you don't think the government should restrict. Did I get that right?
I don't think the government should ban abortions.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:21 am to Wishing Well
Yeah it’s really hilarious to imply that this board would hold consistent positions. I know. That was kind of my point.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:23 am to Robin Masters
1980's... the coming of age for the last phase of Boomers...and when some early boomers had boomer kids approaching 20.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:25 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I don't think the government should ban abortions.
Virtually all government regulations, bans, laws etc are pretty meaningless and only apply to poor people anyway.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:28 am to 4cubbies
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Virtually all government regulations, bans, laws etc are pretty meaningless and only apply to poor people anyway.
Well, that's why I'm so critical of Democrats and liberals who pretend they want to help poor people.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:30 am to 4cubbies
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Yeah it’s really hilarious to imply that this board would hold consistent positions. I know. That was kind of my point.
Child in womb = illegal immigrant.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:31 am to 4cubbies
So the fetus only ceases to be a “non-citizen” when exactly?
Nice attempt to conflate the two, btw, your second graders might actually buy it.
Nice attempt to conflate the two, btw, your second graders might actually buy it.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
No politician or political party wants to help anyone other than themselves and their loved ones. I have the self-awareness to realize I can be naive at times and even I can’t deny this reality. It’s truly baffling that there are so many people out there who really believe politicians care about them.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Friedman said it best when he was talking to students at Stanford in like the last 70s.
Well, that's why I'm so critical of Democrats and liberals who pretend they want to help poor people.
No one is getting elected on either side catering to the poor.
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