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re: OT Ballers: Joe Montana is selling his 500 acre estate + mansion in Napa for $28 million

Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116589 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:13 pm to
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One day I’ll look into the history of why rosé (skin contact red) became so popular while orange (skin contact white) basically didn’t exist, at least in the US. If you happen to know the answer, by all means


Orange wine as we know it probably originated in Georgia and spread to Slovenia and Northern Italy. It was popular in Italy until mid 20th when it basically disappeared everywhere outside of Georgia and Slovenia. People wanted to drink clear, crisp whites. There was no market or knowledge of it.

It’s come back because somms in Europe started getting their hands on it and winemakers loved it so they started producing small batches and it’s just taken off.

Rosè has been around since forever too. I had to look it up, but after WW2 two Portuguese producers introduced them in sparkling form to the American market and they sold well. It was long popular in Europe we just didn’t know about it.

Then you have the whole blush and white Zin phenom of the 70s and 80s.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 5:14 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114154 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:18 pm to
That's a place to live. But couldn't he pay someone to take care of the property?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28611 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:30 pm to
Joe made his money, he didn't inherit it. (Inherited millionaires are the worst)

He's been very smart w/ his investments.

As a practical matter, he has FU money.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
299 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:44 pm to
Beautiful.

What do you reckon property taxes are on it, $350,000?
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14169 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:48 pm to
A wildfire came very close to there back in '16 or '17
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3712 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:48 pm to
There are several YouTube channels of people that film abandoned places like Joe's that have gone to complete shite over the yrs.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114154 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:00 pm to
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His net worth is listed at $100mm

That’s not frick you money



I have double that and I can say its not frick you money.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98554 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:01 pm to



Those guys would get broken in half if they tried to play at that weight today.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20588 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:10 pm to
What a life.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91158 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:18 pm to
Thats a badass property. I love the Mediterranean style. Very tasteful and elegant
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91158 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:20 pm to
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would have thought that would be more than $28 million


I think when you start getting into properties like that the sale price tag gets diminished due to the upkeep costs

The landscaping costs alone for that property are 6 figures I bet
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28611 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:28 pm to
It's like buying a Lear.

Someone could give you a Lear, and you'd go broke on the maintenance costs.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
9773 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:40 pm to
I would never live in California and be raped by their tax system. frick all that
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9472 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Got a link?


LINK
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28611 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:50 pm to
Also, worth every penny.

Shooting range FTW.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29754 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:06 pm to
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I think when you start getting into properties like that the sale price tag gets diminished due to the upkeep costs The landscaping costs alone for that property are 6 figures I bet


I’m thinking 7 figures. Place is immaculate and massive
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98554 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:15 pm to
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thought the same thing . My guess is that all those 500 acres are locked up in a land trust and cannot be planted nor developed. It’ll be raw land forever.


That's a good thing. For that kind of money I don't want a subdivision next door.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15416 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:23 pm to
His wife was a smoke show in her younger days.

Joe was my most favorite player when I was a kid.



This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:32 pm to
He's getting out before California passes a law that if you leave you have to pay them taxes for the next 20 years. Or something crazy like that.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7464 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:32 pm to
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9,700-square-foot, three-bedroom home


Wow.
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