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1928 Socialist Platform.... You are going to shake your head
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:16 pm
1. "Nationalization of our natural resources, beginning with the coal mines and water sites, particularly at Boulder Dam and Muscle Shoals." (Boulder Dam, renamed Hoover Dam, and Muscle Shoals are now both federal government projects.)
2. "A publicly owned giant power system under which the federal government shall cooperate with the states and municipalities in the distribution of electrical energy to the people at cost." (Tennessee Valley Authority.)
3. "National ownership and democratic management of railroads and other means of transportation and communication." (Railroad passenger service is completely nationalized through Amtrak. Some freight service is nationalized through Conrail. The FCC controls communications by telephone, telegraph, radio, and television.)
4. "An adequate national program for flood control, flood relief, reforestation, irrigation, and reclamation." (Government expenditures for these purposes are currently in the many [non-adjusted] billions of dollars.)
5. "Immediate government relief of the unemployed by the extension of all public works and a program of long range planning of public works ..." (In the 1930s, WPA and PWA were a direct counterpart; now, a wide variety of other programs are.) "All persons thus employed to be engaged at hours and wages fixed by bona-fide labor unions." (The Davis-Bacon and Walsh-Healey Acts required contractors with government contracts to pay "prevailing wages," generally interpreted as highest union wages.)
6. "Loans to states and municipalities without interest for the purpose of carrying on public works and the taking of such other measures as will lessen widespread misery." (Federal grants in aid to states and local municipalities currently total [non-adjusted] tens of billions of dollars a year.)
7. "A system of unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system)
8. "The nation-wide extension of public employment agencies in cooperation with city federations of labor." (U.S. Employment Service and affiliated state employment services administer a network of about 2,500 [in 1980] local employment offices.)
9. "A system of health and accident insurance and of old age pensions as well as unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system.)
10. "Shortening the workday" and "Securing to every worker a rest period of no less than two days in each week." (Legislated by wages and hours laws that require overtime for more than forty hours of work per week.)
11. "Enacting of an adequate federal anti-child labor amendment." (Not achieved as amendment, but essence incorporated in various legislative acts.)
12. "Abolition of the brutal exploitation of convicts under the contract system and substitution of a cooperative organization of industries in penitentiaries and workshops for the benefit of convicts and their dependents." (Party achieved, partly not.)
13. "Increase of taxation on high income levels, of corporation taxes and inheritance taxes, the proceeds to be used for old age pensions and other forms of social insurance." (In 1928, highest personal income tax rate, 25 percent; in 1978, 70 percent; in 1928, corporate tax rate, 12 percent; in 1978, 48 percent; in 1928, top federal estate tax rate, 20 percent; in 1978, 70 percent.)
14. "Appropriation by taxation of the annual rental value of all land held for speculation." (Not achieved in this form, but property taxes have risen drastically.)
2. "A publicly owned giant power system under which the federal government shall cooperate with the states and municipalities in the distribution of electrical energy to the people at cost." (Tennessee Valley Authority.)
3. "National ownership and democratic management of railroads and other means of transportation and communication." (Railroad passenger service is completely nationalized through Amtrak. Some freight service is nationalized through Conrail. The FCC controls communications by telephone, telegraph, radio, and television.)
4. "An adequate national program for flood control, flood relief, reforestation, irrigation, and reclamation." (Government expenditures for these purposes are currently in the many [non-adjusted] billions of dollars.)
5. "Immediate government relief of the unemployed by the extension of all public works and a program of long range planning of public works ..." (In the 1930s, WPA and PWA were a direct counterpart; now, a wide variety of other programs are.) "All persons thus employed to be engaged at hours and wages fixed by bona-fide labor unions." (The Davis-Bacon and Walsh-Healey Acts required contractors with government contracts to pay "prevailing wages," generally interpreted as highest union wages.)
6. "Loans to states and municipalities without interest for the purpose of carrying on public works and the taking of such other measures as will lessen widespread misery." (Federal grants in aid to states and local municipalities currently total [non-adjusted] tens of billions of dollars a year.)
7. "A system of unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system)
8. "The nation-wide extension of public employment agencies in cooperation with city federations of labor." (U.S. Employment Service and affiliated state employment services administer a network of about 2,500 [in 1980] local employment offices.)
9. "A system of health and accident insurance and of old age pensions as well as unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system.)
10. "Shortening the workday" and "Securing to every worker a rest period of no less than two days in each week." (Legislated by wages and hours laws that require overtime for more than forty hours of work per week.)
11. "Enacting of an adequate federal anti-child labor amendment." (Not achieved as amendment, but essence incorporated in various legislative acts.)
12. "Abolition of the brutal exploitation of convicts under the contract system and substitution of a cooperative organization of industries in penitentiaries and workshops for the benefit of convicts and their dependents." (Party achieved, partly not.)
13. "Increase of taxation on high income levels, of corporation taxes and inheritance taxes, the proceeds to be used for old age pensions and other forms of social insurance." (In 1928, highest personal income tax rate, 25 percent; in 1978, 70 percent; in 1928, corporate tax rate, 12 percent; in 1978, 48 percent; in 1928, top federal estate tax rate, 20 percent; in 1978, 70 percent.)
14. "Appropriation by taxation of the annual rental value of all land held for speculation." (Not achieved in this form, but property taxes have risen drastically.)
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:20 pm to BCreed1
People wouldn’t have been in favor of any of this under the banner of Socialism.
Adopt them as planks of one of the major parties’ platform however…
The moral of this little fable: shite by any other name smells just as bad.
Adopt them as planks of one of the major parties’ platform however…
The moral of this little fable: shite by any other name smells just as bad.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:22 pm to Godfather1
Yep. That era was a massive turning point in the USA.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:34 pm to BCreed1
You should read the Communist Manifesto. Check out the tenets. We're over halfway to where he thought we should be.
Interestingly, Marx wasn't far off when it came to oligarchies forming and controlling everything, but his solutions were horrible.
Interestingly, Marx wasn't far off when it came to oligarchies forming and controlling everything, but his solutions were horrible.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:36 pm to BCreed1
The White Pill covers a lot of this from 1928-35 in the U.S. There were lots of Americans in favor of Lenin and Communism.
Most were authors and journalists. Upton Sinclair was pissed because his book The Jungle was misinterpreted. It resulted in meat packing policies to improve cleanliness. His point was to attack capitalism and promote communism.
One of the V.P. nominees for FDR was a communist. In those days they voted for VP at convention and he lost. After WWII was over the guy said 'I was wrong about that.'
Most were authors and journalists. Upton Sinclair was pissed because his book The Jungle was misinterpreted. It resulted in meat packing policies to improve cleanliness. His point was to attack capitalism and promote communism.
One of the V.P. nominees for FDR was a communist. In those days they voted for VP at convention and he lost. After WWII was over the guy said 'I was wrong about that.'
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:37 pm to BCreed1
The 19th amendment did wonders to advance that.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:43 pm to TerryDawg03
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You should read the Communist Manifesto. Check out the tenets. We're over halfway to where he thought we should be.
You are exactly right.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:43 pm to LemmyLives
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The 19th amendment did wonders to advance that.
FDR and the Great Depression did wonders to advance that.
I've always considered him one of, if not the worst, presidents of all time.
Without the Depression much of that probably never gets put into place. Certainly not 90 years ago anyway.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:47 pm to BuckyCheese
“Without the Depression much of that probably never gets put into place. Certainly not 90 years ago anyway.”
That’s what most think they will do to user in the great reset…digital currency, and it’s pretty much over
That’s what most think they will do to user in the great reset…digital currency, and it’s pretty much over
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:52 pm to BuckyCheese
The guy who ran the Socialist Party then was Norman Thomas. This is what he stated over the years.
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“The United States is making greater strides toward Socialism under Eisenhower than even under Roosevelt, particularly in the fields of Federal spending and welfare legislation.”
“The difference between Democrats and Republicans is: Democrats have accepted some ideas of Socialism cheerfully, while Republicans have accepted them reluctantly.”
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:53 pm to Zach
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The White Pill covers a lot of this from 1928-35 in the U.S. There were lots of Americans in favor of Lenin and Communism.
The party in the USA in that time was around 190K.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:55 pm to BCreed1
Read the book, "The Forgotten Man" by Amity Shales....it revolves around this idea and is a well-written historical work. It will shock you.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:59 pm to LSU4Life2021
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Read the book, "The Forgotten Man" by Amity Shales....i
Will look it up.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:42 pm to BCreed1
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1. "Nationalization of our natural resources, beginning with the coal mines and water sites,
"This liberal would be all about socializing...uh um, would be about basically (pause)... taking over, and the government running all of your companies"
- Maxine Waters
Sometimes, they remind everyone who they truly are.
Sometimes.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:47 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
They already indirectly do via the EPA among other agencies.
Want to open a copper/gold mine in northern Wisconsin?
Good luck.
Want to open a copper/gold mine in northern Wisconsin?
Good luck.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:51 pm to BuckyCheese
How do we turn the tide?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:01 pm to Jjdoc
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How do we turn the tide?
Something about watering the tree of liberty
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:10 pm to Jjdoc
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How do we turn the tide?
You can vote yourself into socialism, but....
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