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re: Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed - container ship wrecked into it

Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:41 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164607 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:41 am to
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How many major bridges to make the crossing in that area? This is going to wreak logistical havoc


Traffic doesn't look bad, let's see what it looks like this afternoon. Baltimore has a pretty good highway system. There's two low-clearance interstate tunnel routes through downtown. The I-695 loop around the north side of Baltimore is going to see the largest increase in traffic as semis and hazardous cargo take that route.

This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 9:30 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31542 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:43 am to
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Pilots generally don’t navigate the ship though.

They point out markers, objects, bridges….



Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10264 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:43 am to
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In a sense its catastrophic timing...but in another sense this could have happened at rush hour or something.


agreed. a 1:30 am event limited lots of traffic.

But the ship losing all power at that moment...

If they confirmed only 7 vehicles, did they find all 7?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20628 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:45 am to
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Multiple generators


If it’s a single screw does it also have a generator running at the same time? It seems crazy to me that if the single engine dies all the power for the vessel is also lost? I mean the lights all go out? If you lost power like that at sea with decent waves it could be catastrophic to the cargo?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99616 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:45 am to
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Anyone know where they can send the car carriers for the next couple of years? This is going to be a pretty big disruption for them.


I know someone who had a car delivered to the Charleston port once.

Don't know if that extra concrete at the base of the Ravenel bridge over the Cooper river would have stopped the ship form hitting the support, but the Key bridge didn't even have those.

Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35567 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:46 am to
Marquette Transportation breathes a sigh of relief, as they are free to run into the Sunshine bridge without much coverage after this
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 8:49 am
Posted by Nitrogen
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2016
4004 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:47 am to
Living in Louisiana all my life, still horrified of this happening down here
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120695 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:49 am to
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the other refused treatment


Survives a bridge collapse and just goes home

A true baw
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 8:52 am
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8297 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:50 am to
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Living in Louisiana all my life, still horrified of this happening down here


It nearly happened to the Sunshine bridge a few years ago. Hit by a crane at 1:50am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:50 am to
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There appeared to be an explosion on the container ship as it collided with the bridge sending container and diesel flooding into the water. One of the vehicles that fell to the water was a tractor-trailer.
LINK

The Daily Mail says that there was an explosion on the ship. I can’t make out from the article if the explosion was prior to the collision or caused by the collision.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29324 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:51 am to
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but the Key bridge didn't even have those.


Key Bridge was built in the 70s before the Sunshine Skyway disaster. Why they didn't add barriers around the supports though is another question.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9423 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:52 am to
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Looks like the power poles had more protection than the bridge supports
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18274 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:53 am to
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That's exactly what they do



He's not entirely wrong. Usually the ship captains "drive" the ships and the pilots guide them in and out of ports
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64876 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:53 am to
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appeared


Appeared to whom? I think they’re confused about the black smoke coming from the diesel engines.

quote:

The Daily Mail says that there was an explosion on the ship.


They are not saying there was an explosion. They’re saying there *appeared* to be an explosion. Appeared to whom?
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:54 am to
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If it’s a single screw does it also have a generator running at the same time? It seems crazy to me that if the single engine dies all the power for the vessel is also lost? I mean the lights all go out? If you lost power like that at sea with decent waves it could be catastrophic to the cargo?


Even if it was a single screw that doesn’t mean there’s only one main engine. Could be an in line configuration

And if it’s a classed vessel it has to have redundancy

I just heard the ship only ha: 22 crew members from India.

I you know you know that India has the most incompetent marine crews and basically zero regulations when it comes to marine safety
Posted by Telecaster
Memphis
Member since May 2017
1709 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:56 am to
Would a vessel this size have bow thrusters to assist with steering? I’m assuming the power failure would negate those as well.

Awful situation.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1742 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:57 am to
Not sure of the channel layout but i would think it would be pointed to pass through the bridge at the time of power failure. Inertia would carry it forward more or less along that path. It appears it turns to starboard during the incident so either it was in a turn at failure or something caused the rudder to move. Unless wind/current were a factor. Pure useless speculation on my part...

Looks like the USCG station is blocked from access to the Atlantic....

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51596 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:57 am to
Governor holding presser right now.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:58 am to
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vessel this size have bow thrusters to assist with steering? I’m assuming the power failure would negate those as well.


Yes and yes but a 900’ ship would laugh at bow thrusters
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2476 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:01 am to


Anyone else find the lack of first responder presence odd in this photo? No Tugs, USCG, supply boat type respons or the like? I count maybe 3 small craft.

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