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re: Lost the game on a dropped third strike!
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:25 am to evansky
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:25 am to evansky
I posted this a different thread…
This is just a stupid rule that I’ve never understood anyway. Just seems like a made up rule by little leaguers 100 years ago.
And to add, he didn’t drop it, it bounced several feet in front of him. So technically speaking if the pitcher rolled the ball all the way home and the batter swings you still have to throw him out at first. I just don’t get the need to for that rule.
This is just a stupid rule that I’ve never understood anyway. Just seems like a made up rule by little leaguers 100 years ago.
And to add, he didn’t drop it, it bounced several feet in front of him. So technically speaking if the pitcher rolled the ball all the way home and the batter swings you still have to throw him out at first. I just don’t get the need to for that rule.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:26 am to evansky
Was that pitch ruled a wild pitch or a passed ball? In other words was the catcher at fault or the pitcher. I felt it was 100% not a dropped 3rd strike. Milazzo did about the best he could. He blocked the pitch and leaned slightly forward with the top of his body the way catchers are taught. He tried to keep it in front of the plate, but sometimes a ball that far out front has a mind of its own. It looked like a wild pitch and that was on Ack.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:48 am to Sofaking2
Definitely a wild pitch… even Ben McDonald said Milazzo did every thing he could do.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:54 am to upgrade
Milazzo is our best defensive catcher. He blocks that 9 times out of 10. That was just a weird bounce
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:56 am to Lester Earl
Yep. If he looks to his right first instead of to his left he would have thrown the guy out. Just bad luck
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:58 am to evansky
It's baseball, it happens. Tulane lost the series to UL that way in the bottom of the 9th
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:06 am to ksdolfan
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This is just a stupid rule that I’ve never understood anyway. Just seems like a made up rule by little leaguers 100 years ago.
Add me to this list. I don’t understand this rule at all. If it’s a strike, it’s a strike. If it’s strike 3, then batter is out. Period.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:22 am to evansky
Agreed Milazo costs us that game.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:30 am to Quatrepot
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I never even understood what the purpose was of having that rule
It’s the dumbest rule in sports. And especially dumb in the lower levels of baseball. Little league kids that can barely throw strikes, manage a strikeout and then the catcher whiffs it and little Johnny gets a free base . Meanwhile the pitcher has to throw another 25 pitches to get out of the inning. All while leagues are trying to keep pitch counts down.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:48 am to dovehunter
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I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but we waste way too many 2 strike pitches, especially with runners on base.
Trying to get a K instead of a batted ball is definitely the goal when runners are on. In the majors 12.3% of the time on an 0-2 count is a swinging strikeout recorded outside the zone. The batting average from 0-2 to 1-2 is minimal.
Do you think pitchers should throw more in the zone? If you start doing that then other teams will catch on due to everything being data driven.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:48 am to evansky
Shitty coaching lost the game
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:55 am to Quatrepot
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I never even understood what the purpose was of having that rule
Saw it yesterday watching recorded Mysteries at the Museum with the wife:
It was always a part of the rules. Catchers used to stand several feet beyond the bag and catch the ball off the bounce.
Someone came up with the curve ball. Always struck out the guy, but off the bounce it would fly way off to the right and not get caught.
So they moved the catcher forward to catch the ball without a bounce. This beat the shite out of his hands, so he made an early catching glove out of old leather gloves.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:01 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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It’s the dumbest rule in sports. And especially dumb in the lower levels of baseball. Little league kids that can barely throw strikes, manage a strikeout and then the catcher whiffs it and little Johnny gets a free base . Meanwhile the pitcher has to throw another 25 pitches to get out of the inning. All while leagues are trying to keep pitch counts down.
I don’t mind it at upper levels. I’m not sure why it was originally implemented, though. But you’re right about it being ridiculous in Little League. I don’t think we started it until high school.
But my daughter’s 10-year-old team had it. 1st year after coaches pitch and the girls can barely throw strikes. Probably half the runs were from dropped strikeouts that the catcher missed. Then usually proceeded to throw to 1st after the hitter was already there, where the ball would inevitably wind up in right field and the girl who struck out would wind up on 3rd or a lot of times even scoring. At a level where just getting an out of any kind is a huge deal, talking one away on a dropped/missed 3rd strike is just fricking retarded.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:10 pm to ksdolfan
Such a pathetic melt to blame the rules of baseball. The rule is fine and discourages pitchers from throwing way out of the zone when a hitter is trying to protect the zone with 2 strikes. You throw the ball in the dirt you have to live with the consequences. This time it didn’t go our way.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:20 pm to dovehunter
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We have to stop throwing the ball in the dirt on two strike counts especially with a runner on 3rd. We’ve been doing it for 25 years.
That is a terrible take, man. We probably strike out 20 guys like that for every run that sneaks home.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:27 pm to dovehunter
quote:that’s exactly when you waste them. A strikeout on an unhittable pitch is a win for the defense.
not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but we waste way too many 2 strike pitches, especially with runners on base.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:34 pm to tigerfoot
Unless it allows a run to score and you can’t throw out the runner at 1st base. You never see that in the majors. It’s bad odds with a runner on 3rd IMHO. Of course it’s been done in College Baseball forever. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.
Just seems to me that we waste way too many pitches thus running up the pitch count and then you leave the guy in too long and bingo. You get beat.
Just seems to me that we waste way too many pitches thus running up the pitch count and then you leave the guy in too long and bingo. You get beat.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:34 pm to ELVIS U
It was a ball in the dirt that was blocked just like catchers are trained to do. Most of the time the ball hits the chest protector and falls right in front the catcher who tags the batter or throws him out at first. It was a bad break that the ball hit the edge of the protector and bounced side ways. Milazzo played the ball the way all catchers are taught when a ball is in the dirt. Just a bad break. Too many walks cost us the game.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:12 pm to dovehunter
quote:or you catch too much of the plate and they hit it out at 111
Just seems to me that we waste way too many pitches thus running up the pitch count and then you leave the guy in too long and bingo. You get beat.
You mentioned odds. All numbers say you are better off w the strikeout there. And percentage of runners getting to first in dropped third is low
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