re: China is currently not an economic threat and is imploding internally.

China has built ghost cities to propel their economy for years.

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Use force in order to improve their situation.

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And that means? Force where? Against whom? What kind of force?

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It would seriously damage ours as well.

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This divergence shows that we can easily survive. We still have a real economy beyond this trade. China does not.

It would be a shot to the arm or a flesh wound for us and a bullet to the brain for them.

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Like a revolution in the world against the West/status quo? I

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No like a civil war where the citizens overthrown their failing government driving their SOL and economy into the ground.

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China plays the long game

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They cant play the long game effectively, they are a demographic time bomb.

China has a demographic bomb and all the known and unknown inefficiencies of the Communist system. I’ve said that here for a decade plus. But make no mistake, they can continue to make things very painful for us all around the globe and they view us as their primary (non existential ) enemy. Wherever we project power they will undermine us and they will continue to flood America with drugs, counterfeit items, various bad actors etc.

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will continue to flood America with drugs, counterfeit items, various bad actors

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Indeed.

As their economy falters, expect more "designer drugs" and black market items.

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quote:China plays the long game They cant play the long game effectively, they are a demographic time bomb.

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Im not so convinced of this

I wish we had deflation here


Jealous that China has a strong trump like president and we have a wuss

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Im not so convinced of this

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Dont listen to influencers. There's more objective info out there.


China isnt the only one. Japan quietly is also trying to fend off a population collapse.

China's military spending has exploded since 2005.



China Has Two Paths To Global Domination
JAKE SULLIVAN, HAL BRANDS
MAY 22, 2020
FOREIGN POLICY


Xi Jinping’s China is displaying a superpower’s ambition. Only a few years ago, many American observers still hoped that China would reconcile itself to a supporting role in the liberal international order or would pose—at most—a challenge to U.S. influence in the Western Pacific. The conventional wisdom was that China would seek an expanded regional role—and a reduced U.S. role—but would defer to the distant future any global ambitions. Now, however, the signs that China is gearing up to contest America’s global leadership are unmistakable, and they are ubiquitous.

There is the naval shipbuilding program, which put more vessels to sea between 2014 and 2018 than the total number of ships in the German, Indian, Spanish, and British navies combined. There is Beijing’s bid to dominate high-tech industries that will determine the future distribution of economic and military power. There is the campaign to control the crucial waterways off China’s coast, as well as reported plans to create a chain of bases and logistical facilities farther afield. There are the systematic efforts to refine methods of converting economic influence into economic coercion throughout the Asia-Pacific and beyond.

Not least, there is the fact that a country that formerly disguised its ambitions now asserts them openly. China has entered a “new era,” Xi announced in 2017, and must “take center stage in the world.” Two years later, Xi used the idea of a “new Long March” to describe China’s worsening relationship with Washington. Even strategic shocks that originated within China have become showcases for Beijing’s geopolitical aspirations: Witness how Xi’s government has sought to turn a coronavirus crisis made worse by its own authoritarianism into an opportunity to project Chinese influence and market China’s model overseas.

China landed on the Moon. US still looking for first successful moon landing in 50 years. China's new space station is expected to still be in orbit when ISIS is brought down in a controlled burn up.

Chinese investors and firms own a majority of almost 2,400 American companies employing 114,000 people.

AMC GE Appliances Motorola Mobility Smithfield Foods China Mobile Ingram Micro Riot Games Sinopec Starwood Hotel Alibaba Group Tencent Waldorf Astoria New York Legendary Entertainment Group

China currently owns around 380,000 US acres.

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Chinese policymakers have been exploring opportunities to promote renminbi usage in bilateral trade and settlement since the launch of Xi’s 2013 Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), a massive global infrastructure development project. But even before the BRI, China’s leaders had expressed interest in using the SCO framework to promote its currency for international financing schemes. Reducing the power of the US dollar.

“China’s financial institutions and enterprises must inoculate themselves against potential international sanctions in the event of a military conflict with the West over Taiwan.”

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What you posted suggests they are entering a DEFLATIONARY situation.

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Because they have failed to develop a real economy and money isn't circulating within the population.

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However, it doesn’t actually illustrate anything in trying to compare it with where WE currently are, to be able to say “see, look how much better off WE are.”

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but they are having the same issues, in certain productive sectors.

The problem is at large they are not productive because they don't have a real, developed economy.

Like I said, this is showing that the emperor has no clothes. We are seeing the actual underpinnings of this projected economic threat and it doesn't exist. It probably never really did.

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I think we are each fricked in different ways

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China is fricked both ways.