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re: Kash Patel just dropped a new video regarding why the National Guard was not used J6!
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:08 am to KiwiHead
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:08 am to KiwiHead
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In DC he can.
Post the law the expressly provides this power. Without that, he absolutely cannot. Literally nobody with any legal acumen argues otherwise. So post the law.
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:10 am to Warboo
It does have a close to 100% literacy rate (99%)......much higher than the State of Alabama with about a 76% rate
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:11 am to KiwiHead
It also has great trout fishing.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:12 am to BBONDS25
Wait, do we really have grown adults saying the President of the United States can deploy NG troops at will? Do they not teach civics in high school anymore? 
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:12 am to KiwiHead
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It does have a close to 100% literacy rate (99%)......much higher than the State of Alabama with about a 76% rate
You are hurting their stats chief.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:13 am to TBoy
Militarization of The Capitol would have been used by Democrats as evidence of an attempted Trump coup d'etat. He knew it and they knew it.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:15 am to MightyYat
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Wait, do we really have grown adults saying the President of the United States can deploy NG troops at will? Do they not teach civics in high school anymore?
Evidently at kiwi and Tboy's high school they do not
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:25 am to BBONDS25
In DC , in particular areas of DC which are expressly federal, the President through the Secretary of Defense has total power to call in the National Guard. Check out EO 10030(?) In 1949 that had Truman delegating oo SecDef.
So yeah, I'm wrong in that Trump can call for it unilaterally but since SecDef works for him the Executive Branch has control of this call. Bowser cannot veto it. Pelosi does not have any say. So did Trump ask his boy at Defense to call up the guard and if not, why not?
So yeah, I'm wrong in that Trump can call for it unilaterally but since SecDef works for him the Executive Branch has control of this call. Bowser cannot veto it. Pelosi does not have any say. So did Trump ask his boy at Defense to call up the guard and if not, why not?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:38 am to KiwiHead
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So yeah, I'm wrong in that Trump can call for it unilaterally but since SecDef works for him the Executive Branch has control of this call. Bowser cannot veto it. Pelosi does not have any say. So did Trump ask his boy at Defense to call up the guard and if not, why not?
Pelosi absolutely does have a say. She can allow ng on THE CAPITAL GROUNDS or in the CAPITAL or she can reject it. Why would Trump ask "his boy at defense" to call up the guard when Pelosi and Bowser turned them down? Going for the tri-fecta of ignorance on this one kiwi.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:45 am to KiwiHead
So let me understand your position. Trump, as proven in this thread, offered the National Guard to Pelosi and the DC mayor. They refused. Your contention is that they are in the clear, but Trump’s failure to override their refusal and “call his boy” in the defense department was a dereliction of duty? Am I summarizing your point correctly?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:45 am to Warboo
Show me where Pelosi has that power. Bowser has no say about deployments on Federal zones like the Capitol and the White house areas including the Ellipse and the memorials.
Trump did not need Pelosi's permission to deploy at the Capitol....maybe to enter, but at the Capitol and on the grounds surrounding it.....no. This is a bullshite argument.
Trump did not need Pelosi's permission to deploy at the Capitol....maybe to enter, but at the Capitol and on the grounds surrounding it.....no. This is a bullshite argument.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:48 am to KiwiHead
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Show me where Pelosi has that power.
She is speaker of the house. Guess who is in charge of security at the capital. I will give you a hint. Her name rhymes with fancy. Quadrupling down on dumb yes kiwi?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:56 am to BBONDS25
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So let me understand your position. Trump, as proven in this thread, offered the National Guard to Pelosi and the DC mayor. They refused. Your contention is that they are in the clear, but Trump’s failure to override their refusal and “call his boy” in the defense department was a dereliction of duty? Am I summarizing your point correctly?
That is exactly what he is trying to say and that is why everyone is laughing at him. You just cannot make this shite up
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:07 am to Warboo
Where does she have that power because even her office says that it has no say in deploying the National Guard on federal grounds like the Capitol. Site me the law.....I cited thed EO that shows where the President delegates the authority to SecDef. Show me where it says Pelosi could have prevented deployment if Trump wanted to deploy the National Guard on Federal grounds.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:11 am to KiwiHead
Look I am through arguing with your ignorant arse. You have been used and abused over your idiotic take on this situation. You did make me laugh a lot though
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:15 am to BBONDS25
He did not need to. The Capitol and areas around it are federal grounds as such Bowser had NO say and deployments of troops are the purview solely of the Executive Branch. So ole Nance was not in a position to approve or not approve. Her opinion on the matter would have been essentially like anyone on this board.
Then, yes offering up to Bowser and Pelosi and them saying no and him saying " mmmmmmOK" is a dereliction of duty. If he thought there was a real need he could have acted unilaterally in the Federal zones.
Then, yes offering up to Bowser and Pelosi and them saying no and him saying " mmmmmmOK" is a dereliction of duty. If he thought there was a real need he could have acted unilaterally in the Federal zones.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:17 am to KiwiHead
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Trump did not need Pelosi's permission to deploy at the Capitol....maybe to enter, but at the Capitol and on the grounds surrounding it.....no. This is a bullshite argument.
Hmmmmmm....
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:19 am to KiwiHead
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Show me where it says Pelosi could have prevented deployment if Trump wanted to deploy the National Guard on Federal grounds.
She didn't prevent it or stop it. Trump didn't want the NG there. Leading up to the election it was all talk of Trump not transitioning peacefully if not elected. He calls the NG and he looks like a dictator. Instead to put everyone at ease he gave the OPTIONto Nancy and Bowser to increase capitol protection through the NG. There was an offer and it was declined. The whole argument of him telling Nancy to frick off and accept the troops is ignorant
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:23 am to TBoy
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The President of the United States is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard (with citations to the law).
There is absolutely no basis for the ridiculous assertion that the Speaker of the House must give permission to deploy the DC National Guard. It’s patently false
Holy shite. I just read through this entire thread. What the frick is the matter with these people?
As a point of concrete fact. You're correct in everything you've asserted. Man this board is fricking weird as shite sometimes.
Why does this board hate you so much?
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 10:24 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:24 am to KiwiHead
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Then, yes offering up to Bowser and Pelosi and them saying no and him saying " mmmmmmOK" is a dereliction of duty. If he thought there was a real need he could have acted unilaterally in the Federal zones.
This is ignorance on steroids people. Look and laugh. He should be ashamed to ever post on this site again
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