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re: Kash Patel just dropped a new video regarding why the National Guard was not used J6!
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:58 am to Warboo
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:58 am to Warboo
It's irrelevant. Trump could have called the Guard out unilaterally and done so legally in DC as it applied only to the DC guard. He did not have to ask for Bowser's permission and he sure did not need acquiescence from Pelosi or McConnell.
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:59 am to KiwiHead
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Pelosi is irrelevant to this conversation.
The mayor of DC has to approve ng being used in the city. PELOSI has to approve of ng being used on the capital grounds. She is very relevant.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:00 am to TBoy
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The Speaker of the House does not control a single branch of the armed services, and does not control the National Guard. The Commander in Chief is the President.
I suggest you read up on the House and it’s rules and who controls it.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:00 am to KiwiHead
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It's irrelevant. Trump could have called the Guard out unilaterally and done so legally in DC as it applied only to the DC guard. He did not have to ask for Bowser's permission and he sure did not need acquiescence from Pelosi or McConnell.
Someone does not know the laws it appears.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:08 am to Warboo
Do you? Because the law is pretty plain. Bowser did not have any control over this unless Trump ceded control. Pelosi had no control.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:14 am to KiwiHead
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Do you? Because the law is pretty plain. Bowser did not have any control over this unless Trump ceded control. Pelosi had no control.
Trump offered and they turned it down. I cannot spell it out any plainer than that kiwi. If you cannot grasp this then you may want to forgo spreading your genetics to offspring as we already have enough stupid people on this planet.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:17 am to TBoy
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We are exploring who commands the DC national guard, and whether the president of the United States requires Nancy Pelosi’s permission to call out the Guard.
But why are you making this argument? Whether or not he needs permission or asked and was not granted permission are separate issues. This issue at hand is who is responsible for security at the Capitol building. That person is not the president under most circumstances, including this one. Judging by your posts, it seems you would agree that person would NEED the presidents permission to get the National Guards assistance.
The next logical question would be whether that person requested or was offered that assistance. You can reject the claim that an offer was made, but whether or not the NG was needed would be made first by those charged with protecting the capitol. That is, was assistance requested and not granted?
Seeing as Pelosi is in charge of protecting the Capitol, denied (or failed to request) assistance from the president via the NG, and then spearheaded an effort to frame the president’s actions that day as leading an insurrection, I’m just not sure how you reconcile that back to any sort of failure on Trumps part to not provide that assistance against without a request or with a straight up denial.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:18 am to TBoy
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Neither the Speaker of the House nor the Mayor has veto power over Trump’s command. Trump didn’t need permission of Nancy Pelosi. It is Trump’s power, not theirs.
Holy shite. Quadrupling down and completely wrong. What a dumb idiot.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:22 am to KiwiHead
quote:posse Comitatus…
Trump could have simply federalized the guard and direct them to deploy.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:24 am to BBONDS25
Five pages in this thread, and all five pages are people going back and forth with a groomer sociopath that is just going to lie over and over and over again.
When will this board ever learn?
When will this board ever learn?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:28 am to Warboo
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Trump offered and they turned it down. I cannot spell it out any plainer than that kiwi.
Here's the receipts!
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:46 am to Warboo
Then he was derelict the law is clear. He had authority to do this. He did not need Pelosi or Bowser to throw him cover
He could have said " We have actionable intelligence that a large number of Bozos will be in DC for the rally and it suggests that they will go to the Capitol and possibly disrupt official proceedings....as a result I am activating the DC National guard for added security"
HE DID NOT NEED BOWSER OR PELOSI TO AGREE! He could have done it unilatelly and it would have been 100% legal. Apparently reading comprehension on the Plains is not emphasized.
He could have said " We have actionable intelligence that a large number of Bozos will be in DC for the rally and it suggests that they will go to the Capitol and possibly disrupt official proceedings....as a result I am activating the DC National guard for added security"
HE DID NOT NEED BOWSER OR PELOSI TO AGREE! He could have done it unilatelly and it would have been 100% legal. Apparently reading comprehension on the Plains is not emphasized.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:50 am to WDE1980
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Here's the receipts!
"...but orange man could have sent them in still!!"
but this jackass would be the first one to claim that DJT is trying to take over the country via military action IF he were to forcefully send the NG into ANY state, much less the capitol.
the left has a built in BS excuse for either way. don't think, just scream at the sky.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:51 am to KiwiHead
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HE DID NOT NEED BOWSER OR PELOSI TO AGREE! He could have done it unilatelly and it would have been 100% legal. Apparently reading comprehension on the Plains is not emphasized.
Which law specifically authorizes this? Unless specifically authorized, by law, the President cannot deploy the national guard without permission. That is clear.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:58 am to TBoy
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Y’all keep suggesting that Nancy Pelosi could have requested Trump to call out the Guard, or that the Mayor could have requested Trump to call out the Guard. And neither (according to y’all’s narrative) made a request to Trump to deploy the Guard.
This all simply illustrates that it is Trump who has the actual power to deploy the Guard. These other people can make a request to Trump, but it is Trump who had the actual power.
Neither the Speaker of the House nor the Mayor has veto power over Trump’s command. Trump didn’t need permission of Nancy Pelosi. It is Trump’s power, not theirs.
Y’all’s inability to understand what you read is kind of sad, but you are so desperate to make Trump a hero that you will read numbers backward and argue that 9 comes before 1 if that’s what it takes.
You do understand DC is not a State. It's like a Sovereign Nation and the DC police is their "Military" sort to speak. Now, who has control over the DC police other than the Chief? The SOTH.
In order for POTUS to send in the NG, what has to take place. Hint, it's not as simple as ordering the deployment by POTUS. There is a process to follow.
OTOH the SOTH who is the commander (in a sense) of DC police does not have to follow the same protocol as POTUS because of DC Sovereignty.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 9:00 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:01 am to KiwiHead
Kiwi just stop. You are making shite up as you go. You should be embarrassed. Well actually you should be ashamed of showing so much ignorance.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:04 am to partsman103
It's just about the words being used.
It wasn't an emergency so trump did not "order" the guards. So the left saying that is technically true. But the process is neither can the DC mayor order them, unless Trump authorized the use of the national guards. This is what happened. Trump 100% authorized the use of 10k national guards but DC mayor said that was not needed. It was not verbal. Proof of it being authorized is those people that actually in protocol went to the mayor to offer the guards.
It's that simple..
It wasn't an emergency so trump did not "order" the guards. So the left saying that is technically true. But the process is neither can the DC mayor order them, unless Trump authorized the use of the national guards. This is what happened. Trump 100% authorized the use of 10k national guards but DC mayor said that was not needed. It was not verbal. Proof of it being authorized is those people that actually in protocol went to the mayor to offer the guards.
It's that simple..
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:04 am to BBONDS25
In DC he can. If he were in any of the 50 states or territories that have a governor he cannot. Bowser is not considered anywhere close to a governor legally and Pelosi cannot prevent the CinC from mobilizing and deploying troops at any time.
"But, Donnie I don't wat the troops at the Capitol"
"frick you Nance......you get them anyway until the crowd goes home after certification"
"But, Donnie I don't wat the troops at the Capitol"
"frick you Nance......you get them anyway until the crowd goes home after certification"
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:04 am to KiwiHead
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HE DID NOT NEED BOWSER OR PELOSI TO AGREE! He could have done it unilatelly and it would have been 100% legal. Apparently reading comprehension on the Plains is not emphasized.
Apparently reading comprehension is extinct in New Zealand.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:05 am to KiwiHead
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In DC he can. If he were in any of the 50 states or territories that have a governor he cannot. Bowser is not considered anywhere close to a governor legally and Pelosi cannot prevent the CinC from mobilizing and deploying troops at any time.
"But, Donnie I don't wat the troops at the Capitol"
"frick you Nance......you get them anyway until the crowd goes home after certification"
Doubling down on being a dumbass I see...
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