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How can we most effectively revolt without violence?

Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
1394 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:50 pm
I can only think of one way, and that's for the whole of the middle class to simply stop paying income tax.

About a month ago I actually changed my tax status to "Exempt", but chickened out and changed it back a few days later.

Would this even work? I mean they can't put all of us in jail.

Also, how long would it take to really start to make an impact?

The total income tax for the entire country, in 2021, was about 1.6 trillion dollars. Of that the top 1% paid roughly 40% ($680B). It looks like the middle class pay close to a trillion dollars a year in income tax.

As we get closer to November, the left is getting more desperate with each passing day. They have made it very clear that they will do just about anything to keep Trump out of office.

How do we hold these people responsible without having to aim a weapon?

Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
652 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:51 pm to
Win elections.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Would this even work? I mean they can't put all of us in jail.

No it wouldn't work because most people aren't stupid enough to do it
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6325 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:54 pm to
We can’t

1. Politicians don’t have the balls to secede

2. If they did, and they don’t, the moochers would go to war for removing the tit
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7357 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:55 pm to
What good is the second amendment if you refuse to use it to hold a corrupt & tyrannical government accountable which was one of the original intents of the amendment to begin with?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27469 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

How can we most effectively revolt without violence?

Nominate electable candidates, win elections, and govern without sacrificing conservative progress for nonsense culture war issues that result in a wave of liberal opposition in the voting base.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112799 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:56 pm to
If you don't pay income tax they put you in jail. If the jails are full they take all your stuff and give it to 'our new immigrants.'

The best thing a person can do is vote with their feet. Move from a Dem place to a GOP place and take your taxes with you. I did. And a lot of other people are doing it.

On a smaller scale buy products the left doesn't want you to buy and skip shite they want you to have (like EVs).
Posted by MikeyWM97
Pineville
Member since Aug 2022
200 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Also, how long would it take to really start to make an impact?

The total income tax for the entire country, in 2021, was about 1.6 trillion dollars.


Well, when you have a government that just prints money and grows our deficit, I would have to say it would have no impact at all.
Posted by TiderTom
Pleasant Grove
Member since Apr 2011
387 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:04 pm to
That would be very John Galt. It could “stop the motor of the world”.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263354 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:19 pm to
Local elections and boards. Democrats own community based movements. They are far more organized.

$$$. Stop supporting Hollywood, woke corporations and a consumerist lifestyle with your money.


This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4943 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:28 pm to
in my opinion, this country is now on a trajectory that can only end in violence. i dont know when the damn breaks, as it were, but i dont see how any of this can get walked back to a place where we were even ten years ago. the rhetoric and vitriol from the Left is at a point where a very significant portion of the country literally believes that their political enemies are a physical danger to them and are on the level with Nazis. further, i believe our elections are compromised, and that we are only a matter of a few short years from single party rule.

we are replaying the first half of the 20th century, and mass bloodshed, violence, and genocide is a matter of when not if.

happy Tuesday.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
4793 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:33 pm to
Stop paying taxes
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12233 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

How do we hold these people responsible without having to aim a weapon?



Stop voting for the status quo.
If your senator or rep voted for Ukraine money - don't vote for that person.
If he / she voted for the omnibus - don't vote for that person.
If he / she supported McCarthy - don't vote for that person.
There are easy litmus tests to apply.

We have five people in the House that refused to go along with Ukraine, Omnibus, or McCarthy: Gaetz, Biggs, Crane, Rosendale, Goode. That's it in the House.
On the ballot this year for the Senate we are left with Hawley and that's it. Marsha Blackburn was doing well but she wouldn't support a resolution affirming that our Constitution is superior to the NATO treaty.

There's a video at the Our Country Our Choice channel Youtube and it's fairly long but the guy mentions that as citizens we have four "boxes" that we can use to change the things:
Soap box
Ballot box
Jury box
Cartridge box


Soap box clearly doesn't work. The Insurgent Class does what it wants no matter what we say.

That leaves us with the Ballot box, which is my emphasis here - we can change things at the ballot box if people would just grab a pair of balls and stop voting for the same losers. Jimmy Dore and others are trying to get people on the left to stop doing it, and there are many people on the right doing the same.
Stop voting for the same losers.

In that video the guy goes over the Jury Box, talking about grand juries and such that the people can initiate. It's long and it's a difficult process but it's there. I don't endorse it right now because the Ballot Box is much more efficient and it would be incredibly difficult to educate people and get them onboard with the Jury Box.

In the end, we are headed to the Cartridge Box and that is something we really need to avoid, and that is why, again, you must use the Ballot Box and stop voting for the same group of losers, tyrants, and traitors that sell us out time after time.

Our government is getting tyrannical and that means the cartridge box is coming out - they'll use it on us without a doubt. If you want to halt that process, then use the ballot box.

Refusing to pay taxes won't work - they'll just take their time picking off each non payer, one by one, and in the meantime they'll print the money like they already do and nothing will change.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29843 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:56 pm to
A nationwide work stoppage by the right could cripple the country quickly.

Trucking, energy, transportation, law enforcement, agriculture, etc.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6661 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:03 pm to
Everyone agree to stay home for an entire month .Switch off the electricity. Do not travel anywhere, don't buy anything, leave the lights off.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2524 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:12 pm to
We already have tried the 1st ammendment #1. Unfortunately, ammendment #2 is pretty clear
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7024 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:27 pm to
Quit buying fast food, processed food and pharmaceuticals. Buy real food that's locally sourced and in season. Tune out commercial MSM in favor of niche channels of independent media. Keep driving your old car because the new models are shite.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6114 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:29 pm to
Republican states should set up escrow accounts for all tax payers within their state.

Federal taxes would be controlled by the state letting the individual tax payer free from irs penalties. The state would make demands of the federal government, such as audits of all government departments. Federal taxes would not be released until these demands are met.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54754 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:38 pm to
Post on message boards.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2656 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:41 pm to
Nation wide walkouts.

They can't withhold taxes on hours not worked. The taxes collected is the only thing that maintains international trust in the dollar. The beast would be mortally wounded if we could get 10-15% to participate.

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