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honest question…why do so many of you soak your yard with chemicals?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 3/7/24 at 6:44 pm
80% of the first page of this board (all statistics estimated) are about weed killers, fertilizers or pesticides. Why?
none of that shite is good for you or the environment and all you are doing is fighting Mother Nature (a fight you cannot win). Not only is none of that shite good for you it’s mostly poison intended to counteract the natural world.
What is it about monoculture that is so appealing? How is fighting a losing battle time or cost effective? Where in the natural world is there ever a zero sum outcome?
I just don’t get it
none of that shite is good for you or the environment and all you are doing is fighting Mother Nature (a fight you cannot win). Not only is none of that shite good for you it’s mostly poison intended to counteract the natural world.
What is it about monoculture that is so appealing? How is fighting a losing battle time or cost effective? Where in the natural world is there ever a zero sum outcome?
I just don’t get it
Posted on 3/7/24 at 6:52 pm to cgrand
quote:Because this is the Home & Garden Board. It is that time of year where people lay out their lawn and garden plans and schedules for the year.
80% of the first page of this board (all statistics estimated) are about weed killers, fertilizers or pesticides. Why?
quote:This is BS, I rarely have a single weed in my lawn anymore.
all you are doing is fighting Mother Nature (a fight you cannot win).
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:07 pm to cgrand
I dont put shite on my lawn. Of all the demands that life throws at me, tending to my lawn is at the bottom of the list. I guess I dont have that much free time to think about it
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:11 pm to cgrand
Someone has to win lawn of the month in my neighborhood. Might as well be me.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:22 pm to cgrand
I can't believe that someone has been having the exact same thought that I have regarding this issue lately. I mean, I thought about making this exact thread.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:26 pm to cgrand
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cgrand
You may be interested in this:
Doug Tallamy's Home Grown National Park
Maybe it will be of interest to some other folks.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:27 pm to cgrand
I get those nasty spikey weeds in my backyard where the kid plays, am I just supposed to let it grow because “that’s what Mother Nature intended”?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:32 pm to LegendInMyMind
my absolute favorite thing in this life is working with nature and using the (free) resources available to work alongside it and create an outcome that makes sense in a positive way. Composting, natural mulch, fungi, beneficial insects, diversity and native plants create an amazing landscape
I don’t understand why anyone would want otherwise. Decay and renewal…
I don’t understand why anyone would want otherwise. Decay and renewal…
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:32 pm to cgrand
I try to keep it to a minimum. I do one broadcast application of the winter weed cocktail in order to kill the burweed and whatever else is growing. I usually don’t have much growing between mid February to mid March in my garden so that’s my window. The rest of the year I’m too afraid of herbicide drift killing my garden, so I try to avoid it if possible. I try to just mow at the proper height and frequency to keep the lawn healthy.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:33 pm to cgrand
I gave up on this a couple of years ago. The weeds look green too when I mow them so I just leave them alone
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:34 pm to J Murdah
quote:those nasty spiky weeds are there because you are trying to artificially engender monocultural lawn grass
I get those nasty spikey weeds in my backyard where the kid plays, am I just supposed to let it grow because “that’s what Mother Nature intended”?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:40 pm to cgrand
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you are trying to artificially engender monocultural lawn grass
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:42 pm to cgrand
quote:
my absolute favorite thing in this life is working with nature and using the (free) resources available to work alongside it and create an outcome that makes sense in a positive way. Composting, natural mulch, fungi, beneficial insects, diversity and native plants create an amazing landscape
Here's a collage of life that flocked to a bunch of old nasty "weeds" last Fall:
It was a couple of patches of about head high aster that I left to grow all Spring and Summer. They didn't look like much all Summer, but they eventually put on thousands of small white flowers that drew in everything that passed within a few miles of them it seemed.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:47 pm to cgrand
Another one from the podcast/organization Jumpstart Nature:
Jumpstart Nature: The Yard of the Future
Jumpstart Nature: The Yard of the Future
quote:
Without noticing, homeowners across the country have destroyed habitat covering an area the size of New England or Florida. As bad as that sounds, it actually gets worse.
But we can easily fix this problem – and it actually saves you time and money.
The help from Dr. Doug Tallamy, Mary Phillips, and Leslie Inman, Griff explains what’s going on here, and how you can help create The Yard of the Future.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:57 pm to Ingeniero
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The weeds look green too when I mow them so I just leave them alone
haha same man. Im happy as long as the general look is green
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:02 pm to J Murdah
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I get those nasty spikey weeds in my backyard where the kid plays, am I just supposed to let it grow because “that’s what Mother Nature intended”?
sometimes I wonder what it would look like if I just let Mother Nature take over. Would it actually look better and less like Tiger Stadium? Would there be wildflowers growing naturally? Maybe not. Maybe nothing but those stickers and shite weeds. But are we the ones that caused those to grow here by manicuring our lawns?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:03 pm to cgrand
Every time I see a "what chemical should I hose my yard down with" thread I re-appreciate that I live slightly rural and don't have to GAF that my yard has some weeds.
I use chemicals as sparingly as possible. Taurus for termites and roundup for stem soaking vines that grow in my azaleas.
I use chemicals as sparingly as possible. Taurus for termites and roundup for stem soaking vines that grow in my azaleas.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:15 pm to jamiegla1
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sometimes I wonder what it would look like if I just let Mother Nature take over. Would it actually look better and less like Tiger Stadium? Would there be wildflowers growing naturally? Maybe not. Maybe nothing but those stickers and shite weeds. But are we the ones that caused those to grow here by manicuring our lawns?
Having a more natural yard/lawn isn't the same as just letting nature take over. It is about making different, and it can be argued better, choices. Most neighborhoods you ride through are nothing more than non-native turfgrass lawns and non-native (also sometimes now invasive) ornamental plants/flowers. None of that offers anything of value to most things in a local ecosystem.
A simple approach is choosing native "wildflower" species over the traditional imported options. That alone provides something for pollinators and other beneficial insects.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:24 pm to cgrand
The food brought to your table every day was provided by all the things you don’t like. They have fought insects that would eat your crops. They have fought diseases that would kill your crops. They have killed weeds that would choke out your crops.
None of that stuff in your shampoo, deodorant, red dye #5, and anything else you use is good for you. A part of Mother Nature is grass. Mine does very well with minimal chemicals and very good cultural practices.
If you have bees/butterfly/caterpillars in your lawn how many are killed when you mow?
None of that stuff in your shampoo, deodorant, red dye #5, and anything else you use is good for you. A part of Mother Nature is grass. Mine does very well with minimal chemicals and very good cultural practices.
If you have bees/butterfly/caterpillars in your lawn how many are killed when you mow?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:39 pm to ronk
quote:I know you know better than this. Cmon man
If you have bees/butterfly/caterpillars in your lawn how many are killed when you mow?
let’s use an easy example
I always chuckle when I see “how do I get rid of clover” threads and then right after that a thread about lawn fertilizers.
Clover quite literally IS the lawn fertilizer. It fixes nitrogen in the soils. And yes when you mow the flowers you kill some bees but isn’t that better than no bees at all?
I know you know your shite but that argument is just disingenuous at best.
And yes pesticides and fertilizers feed the world. I’m not talking about that. The 1/4 acre lawn (time a couple billion) does far greater damage than does the industrial farm…precisely because it makes more economic sense on farm to conserve resources. Just like the casinos in Las Vegas are not the water users, it’s the lawns.
I would like to propose a challenge to anyone willing to try. Pick out a 10x10 area in your lawn in an area you can observe and makes sense from a landscape standpoint. Cover that area with a good soil mix with plenty of organic matter. Sow a big bag of native wildflower seed and mulch it. Wait three months (do nothing to it otherwise). Watch what happens
If you don’t like it, then this thread is not for you
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