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re: Louisiana appreciation thread
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:05 pm to medium rare
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:05 pm to medium rare
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objectively worse, you're more likely to be a victim of a crime etc. There are states where you would literally have to try to go to an area where you feel unsafe, it's pretty easy in Louisiana
You just keep repeating your buzz phrase “objectivity worse” as if that isn’t opinion based.
If you’re middle to upper middle class, your lifestyle in La is no different than any other place.
You say you’re more likely to be a victim of a violent crime? I lived a long time in La and never had any issues. Nola br Lafayette. You name it. Violent Crime happens everywhere. It’s not happening to random bystanders minding their business. You act like if you’re randomly pumping gas in broad daylight at a normal place, you’ll get murdered. Don’t be a dumbass
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:07 pm to turnpiketiger
quote:as I just said, id argue that it’s better than most places
If you’re middle to upper middle class, your lifestyle in La is no different than any other place.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:11 pm to turnpiketiger
It absolutely is different and worse, you don't go through a drive through and hear "what you won't", in most other places. And by objectively I mean things that are facts and not subjective. Such as poverty, crime, corruption, education, incarceration rates etc.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:24 pm to turnpiketiger
I appreciate Louisiana's history -- the REAL one.
Nice Nawlins Starfort
Nice Nawlins Starfort
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:32 pm to medium rare
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There are states where you would literally have to try to go to an area where you feel unsafe, it's pretty easy in Louisiana
I live in Lafayette, I have never felt unsafe in my neighborhood. You pretty much have to look for crime here too.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:34 pm to medium rare
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Such as poverty, crime, corruption, education, incarceration rates etc.
How does this affect your daily life?
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:35 pm to Epic Cajun
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live in Lafayette, I have never felt unsafe in my neighborhood. You pretty much have to look for crime here too.
Lafayette is awesome, and this is a big reason why. New Orleans and Baton Rouge are nothing like this.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:35 pm to turnpiketiger
Also yes, youre unlikely to be a victim of a crime at a "normal place" in broad daylight. The fact that you have to clarify a "normal place" and "broad daylight", really says it all though.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:44 pm to medium rare
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Also yes, youre unlikely to be a victim of a crime at a "normal place" in broad daylight. The fact that you have to clarify a "normal place" and "broad daylight", really says it all though.
What state doesn't have crime though? Everywhere is going to have shitty poor areas, or at least the vast majority of states will.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:46 pm to Epic Cajun
Go through a drive thru in Connecticut then get back to me, guaranteed you won't be told "what you won't?" when ordering then told to pull up and wait for 15 minutes only to get your order wrong
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:52 pm to Epic Cajun
I think the argument is that in most other places in the developed world, violent crime happens in fairly isolated pockets of communities and can be easily avoided while living one’s daily life. In Louisiana, New Orleans in particular, the areas where crime can be avoided are tiny isolated pockets of communities. Crime is largely unavoidable in places people have to go.
New Orleans is basically the Wild West, only more lawless. I really am not exaggerating.
New Orleans is basically the Wild West, only more lawless. I really am not exaggerating.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:59 pm to medium rare
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The fact that you have to clarify a "normal place" and "broad daylight", really says it all though.
So Louisiana is the only place with shitty gas stations that you should avoid at night? Ok got it.
Again you’re dodging the question of how do all these “objectively worse” metrics affect your day to day life? What exactly are you doing that you feel the need to debate these?
Your points are irrelevant and make no sense. You’re just going off of MSN “best states to live” articles that compile lists based on skewed data. “Oh sure it’s bad. The incarceration rate is so high” ok?
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:00 pm to turnpiketiger
I appreciate the high insurance rates.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:08 pm to kingbob
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Crime is largely unavoidable in places people have to go.
This is the rock solid opinion of those who live outside of New Orleans, such as Sorrento. It's not the reality. Crime certainly occurs in NOLA and at a higher rate than elsewhere, but to say it's unavoidable is ridiculous.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:10 pm to turnpiketiger
Definitely not the only place, but there are way more in Louisiana. Like I said one can live comfortably anywhere with enough money, but why would living in a state with the highest crime, lowest education, highest incarceration rate, high corruption, terrible roads and slow/inept anything government related be optimal? Like I said if you were going to be born tomorrow and could choose any state to be born in, you would be crazy to choose Louisiana
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:15 pm to kingbob
This 100 percent, it's like South Africa, yes one can avoid crime there with enough money/resources/planning, but in many areas of the US there is just simply no need for that, and that is better.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:16 pm to vistajay
I spend time in New Orleans uptown, warehouse district, CBD, French Quarter, Marigny, St. Roch, Mid City, Etc. The only place in the city limits I haven’t personally witnessed crime was in Lakeview. I’ve been mugged a block off canal street, witnessed a shooting at Lee Circle, saw a car get stolen near Audubon Park, a jumping in Mid City, burglaries in Irish Channel, witnessed a fatal stabbing on Bourbon, and dodged bullets on more than one occasion in 2023 alone in St. Roch. I’d call that lawless compared to most places.
I feel less safe in the “good” neighborhoods of New Orleans than I do in pretty much any places I have to go in other parts of the developed world. Every place has their sketchy parts, but in New Orleans, you have to look really hard to find the parts that ARE NOT unsafe.
I grew up in Sorrento, but I don’t live there. I lived in New Orleans for years (most recently in 2021), but live currently in Baton Rouge. I’m not one of those thin blue line salt life sticker on my f-250 baws who’s afraid of black people, seasoning their food, and cities. New Orleans is a whole different level of unsafe, and I know from experience traveling all over the world. In addition, it’s gotten MUCH worse since Covid. It’s extremely noticeable. The New Orleans of today is utterly unrecognizable from when I first lived there in 2012.
I feel less safe in the “good” neighborhoods of New Orleans than I do in pretty much any places I have to go in other parts of the developed world. Every place has their sketchy parts, but in New Orleans, you have to look really hard to find the parts that ARE NOT unsafe.
I grew up in Sorrento, but I don’t live there. I lived in New Orleans for years (most recently in 2021), but live currently in Baton Rouge. I’m not one of those thin blue line salt life sticker on my f-250 baws who’s afraid of black people, seasoning their food, and cities. New Orleans is a whole different level of unsafe, and I know from experience traveling all over the world. In addition, it’s gotten MUCH worse since Covid. It’s extremely noticeable. The New Orleans of today is utterly unrecognizable from when I first lived there in 2012.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:21 pm to Liberator
(Photo: New Orleans. Canal Street, 1857)
How spectacular a city this have been back when
(Early 20th Century photo)
Trivia: New Orleans, Louisiana (1835) is the oldest continuously operating street railway system in the world (according to the American Society of Mechanical Engineers).
Louisiana (and in particular, New Orleans) has been settled for a very long time (muc longer IMO than the given narrative). Given several factors some theorize that Nawlins may be one of several pre-existing New World's (Olde World) Imperial Capitols from a not-so-distant past.
The entire state with its monuments, landmarks, architecture, and mysterious road cut-ins -- straight, leading no-where) -- including off-shore underwater evidence of past civilizations) -- hasn't yet yielded its many past previous occupants nor buried mystery-history. Seems like there's still so much to explore.
Culturally there is no comparable US City or state with respect to its uniqueness of spirit, cuisine, and vibe as NO.
The Port of New Orleans and Mississippi has been crucial to American transportation and imports/exports.
On a food note, thank you for sending us your Gulf Shrimp, your chefs and cuisine, and collective spirit (which has taken a beating in recent years, but never broke).
From a Yank --
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:34 pm to kingbob
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I spend time in New Orleans uptown, warehouse district, CBD, French Quarter, Marigny, St. Roch, Mid City, Etc. The only place in the city limits I haven’t personally witnessed crime was in Lakeview. I’ve been mugged a block off canal street, witnessed a shooting at Lee Circle, saw a car get stolen near Audubon Park, a jumping in Mid City, burglaries in Irish Channel, witnessed a fatal stabbing on Bourbon, and dodged bullets on more than one occasion in 2023 alone in St. Roch. I’d call that lawless compared to most places.
This is wild. I know it's just anecdotal evidence, but I lived Uptown from 2013-2017. During this time I spent most of my time Uptown, Warehouse District, CBD, and some Bywater. We were "out" partying multiple nights per week. Riding our bikes from Uptown to WHD often, walking from LSU HSC to the SKC weekly during basketball season. The only crimes that I ever witnessed or experienced during this time were my bike being stolen from my house Uptown, and my friend's bike being stolen while we were at a restaurant in the WHD.
ETA: I'm not saying that crime doesn't occur because I haven't witnessed it, just that if you aren't stupid you can likely avoid it.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:39 pm to Epic Cajun
It's not wild at all, those places see crime at a way higher rate. And yes anecdotal experiences don't mean as much, but go through a drive thru in another state and tell me your experience wasn't better. And people talk about people being friendly, friendly? You're more likely to get called "white boy" or get some other stuff done/said to you there than in almost anywhere else in the US. Hate to say it but people in California are literally over kind and polite
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