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re: Supreme Court Rules for Trump
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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The ruling could have just been as easily that the CO decision was reversed because 14A(3) doesn't apply to the President.
What they decided was the more pertinent issue for this scenario.
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I did not include that language in response to you to avoid the diversionary discussion
I know. It wasn't a shot at you as much as it was at my Louisiana Catholic School upbringing contemporary.
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:45 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What they decided was the more pertinent issue for this scenario.
Why? Both accomplish the same goal.
One creates more precedential value in the future for a likely one-off, which is bad business.
One is hyper-specific for this particular one-off and has almost no precedential value outside of this exact scenario.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 10:46 am
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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One creates more precedential value in the future for a likely one-off, which is bad business.
This is where we disagree, I suppose.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:47 am to riccoar
With SCOTUS now fully on board with authoritarian Trump, there is genuinely no protection left for regular citizens
That's especially true for our marginalized communities
That's especially true for our marginalized communities
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:47 am to Pettifogger
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With SCOTUS now fully on board with authoritarian Trump, there is genuinely no protection left for regular citizens
Your arse is absolutely broken...
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:48 am to Y.A. Tittle
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This is where we disagree, I suppose.
There are some state's rights implications in this ruling and language that can be used in the future to scale back on the legislative authority of states in this area. The ruling tries to get around this, but really can't.
This ruling is a path to re-stock the VRA, for instance.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:48 am to flownthecoop
I don't think that would happen. If Trump wins an outright majority of the electoral vote by significant spread they would have to even if Democrats regain a majority in the House.
I'm no Trump fan, however I despise using the legal system in the manner that New York, GA and Smith is in the DC case. Let him run and get voted up or down by the voters.
I'm no Trump fan, however I despise using the legal system in the manner that New York, GA and Smith is in the DC case. Let him run and get voted up or down by the voters.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:52 am to SirWinston
Sir Winston. Your Royal Slowness is a eunuch of the highest order who grovels at the feet of his rulers. He likes to sachet his pansy arse around the courtyard when he isn’t busy interpreting edicts to the royal subjects.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:53 am to The Maj
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Your arse is absolutely broken...
Stalin turned on Stalin loyalists eventually, Maj
who will be left to speak for you?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:53 am to LSU5508
I just remember a lot of giddiness following the Colorado Supreme Court ruling and numerous social media posts proclaiming how we all should strive to be more like Colorado. And now this:
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For the reasons given, responsibility for enforcing Section 3 against federal officeholders and candidates rests with Congress and not the States. The judgment of the Colorado Supreme Court therefore cannot stand. All nine Members of the Court agree with that result.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:55 am to Pettifogger
Plot Twist: Trump isn't guilty of anything except ruining the minds of ultra far left crazies.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:59 am to riccoar
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Plot Twist: Trump isn't guilty of anything except ruining the minds of ultra far left crazies.
Promoted terrorism on January 6 that permanently harmed millions. The injury to Americans who watched in horror and whose confidence in democracy was shattered is incalculable. I know many who haven't slept well since that day.
Will rival the cost to long-COVID to be honest
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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What they decided was the more pertinent issue for this scenario.
Why? Both accomplish the same goal.
This ruling might be connected to the pending immunity ruling.
Meaning - congress holds the keys to both insurrection and immunity (via impeachment).
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:00 am to Pettifogger
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Promoted terrorism on January 6 that permanently harmed millions.
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The injury to Americans who watched in horror and whose confidence in democracy was shattered is incalculable. I know many who haven't slept well since that day.
Will rival the cost to long-COVID to be honest
Ah, a troll
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:02 am to BobBoucher
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This ruling might be connected to the pending immunity ruling.
Meaning - congress holds the keys to both insurrection and immunity (via impeachment).
If the court was trying to rely on the impeachment argument, why didn't they, you know, rely on the impeachment argument?
Echo chamber content creators have tried to force that into both cases. Why didn't the USSC even address that for a minute in this case?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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If the court was trying to rely on the impeachment argument, why didn't they, you know, rely on the impeachment argument?
The "impeachment argument" is not necessarily the same thing as the "Congressional purview" argument, even if there can be some overlap.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:07 am to Pettifogger
January 6th was an inside job.
You might go over some of the videos Johnson released.
Like Capitol Police handcuffing an individual and leading him down an empty hallway, taking the handcuffs off, and then fist bumping and going their separate ways.
That is happens all the time apparently
You might go over some of the videos Johnson released.
Like Capitol Police handcuffing an individual and leading him down an empty hallway, taking the handcuffs off, and then fist bumping and going their separate ways.
That is happens all the time apparently
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:09 am to Y.A. Tittle
I think they're completely separate.
The "Congressional purview" is completely statutory in nature. Now, this authority is derived from Constitutional mandates, but the statute is a separate action entirely (and we can exist in a state where it does not exist, like today).
The "Impeachment" argument is purely Constitutional. There is no step to be taken other than the process within the 4 corners of the document. This process is perpetual until an amendment changes it.
The "Congressional purview" is completely statutory in nature. Now, this authority is derived from Constitutional mandates, but the statute is a separate action entirely (and we can exist in a state where it does not exist, like today).
The "Impeachment" argument is purely Constitutional. There is no step to be taken other than the process within the 4 corners of the document. This process is perpetual until an amendment changes it.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:10 am to riccoar
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January 6th was an inside job.
I don't doubt it
The fact that Trump and his sycophants have infiltrated law enforcement to this extent should horrify all Americans
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:14 am to Pettifogger
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Promoted terrorism on January 6 that permanently harmed millions. The injury to Americans who watched in horror and whose confidence in democracy was shattered is incalculable. I know many who haven't slept well since that day.
What we need is an Insurrection Memorial Wall” with the names of all the dead from that day emblazoned in 12 inch letters.
The memorial should stretch from Texas to California along the southern border and be 50 foot high and electrified to prevent right wing vandals from touching it.
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