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Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:00 am to jbird7
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It’s bc of the potency level in weed now.
How would more THC increase risks of heart attack or stroke?
Does increased nicotine intake result in more heart attacks or strokes?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:01 am to A Menace to Sobriety
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Still gonna smoke weed all day every day
That’s pathetic. I’m not against weed at all. I usually smoke a little at night to wind down and like how it makes video games and music more fun. But all day everyday is excessive. I’ve been there before and it got so bad I couldn’t eat in the morning before I lit up and got high. Credit to you if your body can handle it but I feel much better using only once a day
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:01 am to RLDSC FAN
Inhaling particulate matter isn’t good huh? I wonder if cavemen stood over the fire inhaling nonstop?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:04 am to Herschal
quote:Much like any overdose of any compound, there are often deleterious effects.
How would more THC increase risks of heart attack or stroke?
quote:Yes.
Does increased nicotine intake result in more heart attacks or strokes?
It was something seen when vape pens appeared. The amount of nicotine within was magnitudes higher than that seen in cigarettes.
It resulted in increases in BP, heart rate, MIs, etc.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:06 am to Herschal
quote:
How would more THC increase risks of heart attack or stroke?
Just my theory. I could def be wrong. But people have been smoking weed for generations and we never really heard of this. Now that it’s legal and much higher potency we are seeing this ? Not a coincidence to me but again I could be wrong.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:10 am to Scruffy
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Much like any overdose of any compound, there are often deleterious effects.
I guess that makes sense on a much bigger level.
quote:
It was something seen when vape pens appeared. The amount of nicotine within was magnitudes higher than that seen in cigarettes.
Sure, but is it the nicotine or the other solvents used to make the liquid?
It just seems like the article bases its supposed increased dangers off of the smoke and not the compound itself.
Of course, I still have not had time to read the link, so maybe they do address it.
ETA: a lot of companies use propylene glycol as a solvent for their vapes, both nicotine and thc. This solvent is associated with increased heart rate and rhythm problems when ingested in large amounts. Is is possible that quality control is leading to excessive amounts of this solvent being used?
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 11:18 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:10 am to Mr Roboto
Sometimes I smoke in the morning, sometimes I don't do it all day. I quit drinking alcohol due to gout. Day drinking is socially acceptable but day smoking is "pathetic". Gotcha.
I'll do what I do and I don't bother anyone.
I'll do what I do and I don't bother anyone.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:11 am to RLDSC FAN
Druggies on here won’t like this one bit
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:13 am to jbird7
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Just my theory. I could def be wrong. But people have been smoking weed for generations and we never really heard of this. Now that it’s legal and much higher potency we are seeing this ?
You can’t possibly think inhaling smoke and all those particles into your lungs is healthy ?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:15 am to Proximo
Nope. Not healthy.
Do you think these cell phones that you have glued to your body 24 hrs a day are healthy?
Do you think these cell phones that you have glued to your body 24 hrs a day are healthy?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:17 am to lsugolfredman
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Big pharma funding this study?
Bingo! MJ cutting into profits.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:19 am to Proximo
Folks, it's smoke. With cigs you burn a tobacco plant, with weed you burn the cannabis plant. It is all smoke going into your lungs. It's the smoke particles that cause the cardiovascular issues (fine particulate matter).
That said, people who smoke weed probably don't inhale as much smoke as a guy who smokes cigs. Especially with modern weed, you take one or two big hits and you're done.
As for edibles, I would imagine the risk is with the THC itself. It can increase pulse and blood pressure. Probably not a big deal for a person who is of healthy weight, but might be a problem for an out of shape baw.
That said, people who smoke weed probably don't inhale as much smoke as a guy who smokes cigs. Especially with modern weed, you take one or two big hits and you're done.
As for edibles, I would imagine the risk is with the THC itself. It can increase pulse and blood pressure. Probably not a big deal for a person who is of healthy weight, but might be a problem for an out of shape baw.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:21 am to Herschal
quote:Nicotine.
Sure, but is it the nicotine or the other solvents used to make the liquid?
Nicotine’s side effects are well known.
quote:It could be the THC itself or the smoke.
It just seems like the article bases its supposed increased dangers off of the smoke and not the compound itself.
As with nicotine, THC does have an impact on your BP. The info isn’t fully known, but some studies show THC can increase BP, while CBD may decrease it.
THC may be the issue. The studies are all over the map though.
The majority of the ones I have seen seem to point towards increasing BP, but you can find ones on occasion that reference lowering it.
That is just in reference to THC.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:21 am to jbird7
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When we were growing up weed was 15-20% thc.
This isn’t true at all. THC levels back in the day (70s) was closer to 2-5%. Now these days you can buy from a dispensary that is between 15 - 30% by dry weight depending on what you buy.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:21 am to Scruffy
quote:
It was something seen when vape pens appeared
And thats where you find most of the higher potency weed, in the vape cartridges. The vapes are terrible for you period. In my dispensary I haven’t seen any flower over 35%.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:23 am to Herschal
quote:Definitely could be a factor, but increased BP and HR are all known side effects of nicotine to begin with.
a lot of companies use propylene glycol as a solvent for their vapes, both nicotine and thc. This solvent is associated with increased heart rate and rhythm problems when ingested in large amounts. Is is possible that quality control is leading to excessive amounts of this solvent being used?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:25 am to RLDSC FAN
I don't doubt that THC increases heart inflammation, but I really do not like self report studies, especially when it comes to medical diagnosis.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:25 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:good thing i don't have any tattoos
Any use of marijuana linked to higher risk of heart attack and stroke, study says
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:30 am to Scruffy
Not trying to argue one way or another. These were just questions that came to mind after seeing some of the quoted text.
A lot of things in life that are fun are also bad for you in some way, so the results of the study are not surprising.
With studies being all over the place on the issue like you mentioned, I was just trying to gain some clarity.
A lot of things in life that are fun are also bad for you in some way, so the results of the study are not surprising.
With studies being all over the place on the issue like you mentioned, I was just trying to gain some clarity.
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