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re: Imagine being fined 355 million for exaggerating your wealth

Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:28 am to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29358 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:28 am to
It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
72704 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:29 am to
Why didn’t the bank turn him in and give him the money?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74861 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:38 am to
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But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.




How did he fraudulently apply for a loan?

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30173 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:00 am to
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It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.


Value is subjective. If you buy a car for less than initial asking price was the dealer committing fraud when they listed it as the initial price?

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
167018 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:12 am to
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fraud is fraud.


frick you this is a targeted political attack from the very cabal that runs our country
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57567 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:51 am to
What fraud was committed?
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11461 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:17 am to
Banks have due diligence and are required to get appraisals done regardless of what a loan applicant states
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13209 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:25 am to
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It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.


This is the dumbest shite I ever heard. Fraud requires someone to actually be defrauded. There was no one defrauded.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11337 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:27 am to
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It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.

You don’t understand how the loan process for real estate has worked for decades in NYC.

The bankers involved all explained how this is standard process.

In addition, the court horrifically undervalued his assets to allow them to pursue this lawfare suit in the first place.

No one with even a rudimentary understanding of real estate took this as anything other than a witch hunt when it emerged how they were artificially undervaluing his properties such as mar a lago in what has been a red hot S FL market.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20521 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:31 am to
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It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.
what the frick? this is why this country is fricked, because of mouth breather reeee morons like this. Just bend over and take what they tell you to take, who cares, you can still get your Big Mac today.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111787 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:41 am to
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It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.


If every person who tried to justify this court’s actions keeled over dead spontaneously, we could rebuild our country.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27386 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:45 am to
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It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.


It's up to the banks to do their due diligence. If they blindly accepte4 the numbers with no question, they found them to be accurate and acceptable. THEY were negligent if they did not vet the assets.

This is the biggest bullshite ruling I've ever heard of. Banks are happy. Loans paid back. FRAUD!!!!

Only Gnomes and trolls would actually have the audacity to post in support of this ruling.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82943 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:50 am to
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DavidTheGnome


Why must you come on here? Your side controls literally everything. Go post somewhere else and please leave us alone.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80334 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 10:02 am to
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But that he fraudulently applied for a loan.


Except the bank said he didn’t.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6135 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 10:09 am to
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But that he fraudulently applied for a loan


Did he use a false SSN or TIN? Did he steal an identity? Did he use collateral that he wasn't entitled to use? Expound upon your theory.

How can there be fraud when neither party was defrauded?

I hope every meaningful company exits NY with the quickness. frick NY and CA at this point. I won't spend a dime in either, and it's a shame because they have a lot to offer.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27386 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 10:27 am to
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as I understand it.

There's the problem. You don't understand $%it about f#$k.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2506 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 10:31 am to
The bank does their own appraisal. Your statement is retarded
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91176 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:17 am to
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It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.


Banks don’t give out loans based on your word. Loans require documents proving cash flow, assets, etc. Any property owned that’s used as collateral the bank will send an appraiser to determine its value.

Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4192 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:38 am to



Bring back LucasP!
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
616 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 4:03 pm to
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