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How/why are leftists so sure of their beliefs
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:41 am
That they are unwilling to even hear another side or have an open debate?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:49 am to RoosterCogburn585
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hat they are unwilling to even hear another side or have an open debate?
Because they can not defend their position.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:50 am to RoosterCogburn585
If they were sure, they wouldn't avoid a debate.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:52 am to RoosterCogburn585
Self righteous cult
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:54 am to RoosterCogburn585
There are two general divisions of leftists: Leaders and Followers (useful idiots).
Debating the proponents of freedom is very difficult. It requires thinking adroitly. The leaders are smart but know they will lose. They don't push leftism because they are true believers. They push it because it's how they get and retain power and wealth. So, they just refuse to debate. They invoke censorship.
The followers are stupid so they refuse to debate because they are incapable of the exercise.
This board is a good example. There are no big leaders here so it's the followers of left and right. There are almost no leftists here because they get the crap beaten out of them with logic and facts.
If you go to a board dominated by leftist posters like Dem Underground you'll see that they avoid debate by banning all conservatives. I lasted one week. Rex (one of this board's leftists) was banned on D.U. because he wasn't extreme left enough.
Debating the proponents of freedom is very difficult. It requires thinking adroitly. The leaders are smart but know they will lose. They don't push leftism because they are true believers. They push it because it's how they get and retain power and wealth. So, they just refuse to debate. They invoke censorship.
The followers are stupid so they refuse to debate because they are incapable of the exercise.
This board is a good example. There are no big leaders here so it's the followers of left and right. There are almost no leftists here because they get the crap beaten out of them with logic and facts.
If you go to a board dominated by leftist posters like Dem Underground you'll see that they avoid debate by banning all conservatives. I lasted one week. Rex (one of this board's leftists) was banned on D.U. because he wasn't extreme left enough.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:54 am to RoosterCogburn585
Yuri Bezmenov explains it all as a former KGB agent in psyops.
Yuri's loveletter to America
Yuri's loveletter to America
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The essence of subversion is best expressed in the famous Marxist slogan, (if you substitute "proletarians" for a more appropriate word): "Useful idiots of the world — UNITE! To achieve the desired effect, the subverter must first — make idiots out of normal people, and DIVIDE them, before turning the people into a homogenized mass of useful and united idiots. Tanks and missiles may or may not be needed at final stage. For the time being they are simply the means of terrorising people into inaction and submission.
500 years before Christ, the Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu formulated the principle of subversion this way: 1. Cover with ridicule all of the valid traditions in your opponent's country.
2. Implicate their leaders in criminal affairs and turn them over to the scorn of their populace at the right time;
3. Disrupt the work of their government by every means;
4. Do not shun the aid of the lowest and most despicable individuals of your enemy's country.
5. Spread disunity and dispute among the citizens.
6. Turn the young against the old.
7. Be generous with promises and rewards to collaborators and accomplices.
Sound familiar? About 2500 years later we can read this very same instruction in a secret document, allegedly authored by the Communist International for their "young revolutionaries". The document is titled "Rules of Revolution":
1 . Corrupt the young, get them interested in sex, take them away from religion. Make them superficial and enfeebled.
2. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial issues of no importance.
3. Destroy people's faith in their national leaders by holding the latter up for contempt, ridicule and disgrace.
4. Always preach democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.
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5. By encouraging government extravagances, destroy its credit, produce years of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.
6. Incite unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of the government towards such disorders.
7. Cause breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, self-restraint, faith in the pledged word.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:55 am to RoosterCogburn585
Because opposing opinions are "violent," "facism/Nazism," "hate speech" that "literally kill people."
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:55 am to RoosterCogburn585
Conservatives can explain the liberal point of view. The liberals are clueless towards the conservative arguments and reasoning.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:56 am to RoosterCogburn585
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How/why are leftists so sure of their beliefs
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That they are unwilling to even hear another side or have an open debate?
Not sure why you’re directing this only at the left. This is plenty of this on the right as well.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:57 am to RoosterCogburn585
BECAUSE THEY DEAL WITH EMOTIONS AND FALSE NARRATIVES
instead of facts and objectivity and rationality
THEY ARE INSANE WACKOS
instead of facts and objectivity and rationality
THEY ARE INSANE WACKOS
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:57 am to RaginCajunz
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Conservatives can explain the liberal point of view.
Without evoking the WEF, pedophilia, or suggesting an inherent wish to destroy America?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:57 am to RoosterCogburn585
Adam Carolla was talking about this recently. How can they still be so closed minded, and so filled with hate for the other side, even as 100 % their policies are failing spectacularly in real time.
We are watching open borders fail, defund the police fail, forever war fail, radical trans policy hurt kids, green energy fail, their attempts at Trump make him MORE popular….yet they are more dug in than ever.
We are watching open borders fail, defund the police fail, forever war fail, radical trans policy hurt kids, green energy fail, their attempts at Trump make him MORE popular….yet they are more dug in than ever.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 11:59 am
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:59 am to RoosterCogburn585
Arrogance. They believe the classes they took in college make them smarter than you, therefore their ideas are correct and yours are wrong. They believe anyone who disagrees with them are uneducated and are backwards thinking.
Plus, they believe that the media isnt corrupt and that there isnt some big "conspiracy" out there trying to take away our freedoms.
Basically, the left are not capable of deep thought or critical reasoning. They do not question their own beliefs, ever.
Plus, they believe that the media isnt corrupt and that there isnt some big "conspiracy" out there trying to take away our freedoms.
Basically, the left are not capable of deep thought or critical reasoning. They do not question their own beliefs, ever.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:03 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Because existential crisis and a total reduction to a juvenile starting baseline is in store..
If all they believe and base their lives upon..is revealed to be a total lie.
The Leftists are pot committed, have went all in too far too fast, are over their skis. Just like Slim Charles the street soldier in HBO's The Wire said to Avon Barksdale, "We went to War, shite, once you're in it, you're in it, there ain't no going back. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight!"
If all they believe and base their lives upon..is revealed to be a total lie.
The Leftists are pot committed, have went all in too far too fast, are over their skis. Just like Slim Charles the street soldier in HBO's The Wire said to Avon Barksdale, "We went to War, shite, once you're in it, you're in it, there ain't no going back. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight!"
Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:05 pm to RoosterCogburn585
This is pretty ironic considering I've been banned from this board multiple times for simply expressing a non right wing opinion
Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:07 pm to Indefatigable
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This is plenty of this on the right as well.
I've never seen it. And I've seen a lot of IRL arguments between left and right.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:14 pm to RoosterCogburn585
it's their religion, not kidding, it's all about feelings, no facts.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:18 pm to RoosterCogburn585
They love to call people ‘fascists’ yet they are the biggest fascists on the planet.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:23 pm to RoosterCogburn585
100% arrogance
Their “beliefs” are merely and simply the opposite of whatever the right’s are. And most assuredly whatever the polar opposite of Trump’s are. Yes it’s that simple.
Their “beliefs” are merely and simply the opposite of whatever the right’s are. And most assuredly whatever the polar opposite of Trump’s are. Yes it’s that simple.
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