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You may have missed a quiet little change to Realtor websites over the past two years
Posted on 2/4/24 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 5:56 pm
No more crime heat maps.
Realtor Magazine
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Realtor.com and Redfin are taking a stand against crime data being listed on their websites. The real estate companies have removed the data due to growing concerns that it could perpetuate racial inequity.
Realtor.com announced that it has removed its crime map from all search results to “level the playing field.” It is reassessing what safety means to buyers and renters and what information they decide to share about it going forward on realtor.com.
Redfin also came out against crime data being included on real estate websites and said it felt, after surveying consumers and evaluating research, that crime data does not accurately answer the question about how safe an area around a home is. Also, “given the long history of redlining and racist housing covenants in the United States, there’s too great a risk of this inaccuracy reinforcing racial bias,” says Christian Taubman, Redfin’s chief growth officer.
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 5:58 pm to shutterspeed
If you're serious about buying a house, then you should be looking at a lot of things that aren't on the realtor's website, IMO.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 5:59 pm to shutterspeed
I picked my current house base on crime data. Shocking - it synched up with demographic data. Screw those guys, I'll domy own research. I don't need them to tie the bow on my next house. I'm moving to a low crime district for my next house. Wonder if it will be dowtown Detroit or 'Birmingham. I can only hope.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 5:59 pm to shutterspeed
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there’s too great a risk of this inaccuracy reinforcing racial bias
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:00 pm to shutterspeed
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“given the long history of redlining and racist housing covenants in the United States, there’s too great a risk of this inaccuracy reinforcing racial bias,”
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:01 pm to Powerman
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If you're serious about buying a house, then you should be looking at a lot of things that aren't on the realtor's website, IMO.
Yep. If I was trying to sell anything I wouldn't advertise the bad parts of what I was selling.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:01 pm to shutterspeed
So, they're not making disclosures that they're required to by law?
Hope they enjoy getting sued for redhibition (and they're admitting to bad faith from the jump).
I wonder if they talked to their lawyers before they started virtue-signaling
Hope they enjoy getting sued for redhibition (and they're admitting to bad faith from the jump).
I wonder if they talked to their lawyers before they started virtue-signaling
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:05 pm to Powerman
quote:
you're serious about buying a house, then you should be looking at a lot of things that aren't on the realtor's website, IMO.
Not the point at all.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:06 pm to shutterspeed
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The real estate companies have removed the data due to growing concerns that it could perpetuate racial inequity.
So they're acknowledging blacks commit crimes at a greater per capita frequency than the rest of civilized society. And they want to hide it from you because that might make you racist. Got it.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:14 pm to shutterspeed
They are pretending this is a choice. Some jurisdictions consider crime statistics a violation of fair housing laws. Redfin was formerly primarily a site that gave the public access to the MLS but have increasingly tried to market themselves as a discount broker. They recently dropped out of both the national MLS and the National Association of Realtors (so technically they are no longer realtors but agents) because they want to take on the whole broker system. It wouldn’t surprise me if this opens up their liability for fair housing complaints and so they want to get in front of it, especially because their 1% broker fee is bound to attract more poor people
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:19 pm to shutterspeed
They stopped calling them Master Bedrooms. Not surprised about crime heat maps I guess.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:21 pm to shutterspeed
Seems like the chuckleheads at Realtor.com and Redfin were the ones who made the jump of linking crime data to race.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:23 pm to TerryDawg03
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They stopped calling them Master Bedrooms. Not surprised about crime heat maps I guess.
Probably should drop Master off all college degrees too.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:26 pm to TerryDawg03
Just count the number of cars parked outside the garage then divide by the number of chargers and use that ratio as the radius of a circle to stay away from. Then triple it
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:30 pm to Powerman
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you're serious about buying a house, then you should be looking at a lot of things that aren't on the realtor's website, IMO.
What a useless post.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:32 pm to dcbl
It’s racist to point out crime but not racist to commit them
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:33 pm to shutterspeed
Consumer beware by driving past the house many times especially on weekends so you can really see the hood in reality.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:36 pm to shutterspeed
quote:
It is reassessing what safety means to buyers and renters
lol
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:19 pm to shutterspeed
Fair Housing Act....Fed law violation...
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:20 pm to shutterspeed
can't tell the trooff no more.
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