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re: You may have missed a quiet little change to Realtor websites over the past two years
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:22 pm to shutterspeed
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:22 pm to shutterspeed
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crime data does not accurately answer the question about how safe an area around a home is
Tha frick?
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:27 pm to shutterspeed
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No more crime heat maps.
What? Who is this offending other than whites? Which obviously doesn’t matter. And we all know whites are the ones who break in and shite…I’ve seen those alarm commercials! Good thing they’re all clumsy doofuses!
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:32 pm to shutterspeed
This tells me all the houses in predominantly white neighborhoods are gone. I already knew that, because I build a bunch of them. But, this tells me that too lol
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:39 pm to shutterspeed
Pretty soon they’ll stop showing school district ratings for the same reason.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:40 pm to shutterspeed
quote:Da frick?
that crime data does not accurately answer the question about how safe an area around a home is.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:41 pm to shutterspeed
They should have a fiduciary responsibility. It affects the value of the home.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:43 pm to Riverside
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Pretty soon they’ll stop showing school district ratings for the same reason.
This is a prophecy that will come true.
School ratings and test scores are racist.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:02 pm to udtiger
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Hope they enjoy getting sued for redhibition (and they're admitting to bad faith from the jump).
Crime isn’t something that has to be disclosed.
Caveat emptor though
It’s up to the buyer to do their due diligence. Even as an agent I can’t really comment on it. All I’m supposed to do is direct the buyer to a website where they can find crime info. In reality, I work with mostly friends/referrals from friends so I’m a little more candid with them, but it’s a touchy subject. If I’m with a stranger, I just direct them to a website. Saying the wrong thing to the wrong person can land you in hot water.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:14 pm to Riverside
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Pretty soon they’ll stop showing school district ratings for the same reason.
Wait a minute. Are you trying to suggest people will have to … do their own research about a large investment they are considering making?
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:16 pm to Powerman
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If you're serious about buying a house, then you should be looking at a lot of things that aren't on the realtor's website, IMO.
So realtors shouldn't even try to provide those things?
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:21 pm to Bard
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So realtors shouldn't even try to provide those things?
School districts and such yea
Crime no….and to be 100% honest, if you don’t live in a neighborhood do you really know for a fact?
Even if I’m showing something in my neighborhood, I may something like this…”I feel comfortable going for a walk around the neighborhood at 10pm, though that doesn’t mean something can’t happen”.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:14 pm to 4cubbies
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Wait a minute. Are you trying to suggest people will have to … do their own research about a large investment they are considering making?
Not at all. The law requires disclosures in real estate deals. You and your cohorts are intentionally making relevant information harder to find to promote your racial utopian worldview where middle class people get duped into buying homes in dangerous parts of town in the name of equity.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:20 pm to shutterspeed
What does crime data have to do with race?
Unless they are suggesting that certain races are committing more crim….well, this is awkward.
Unless they are suggesting that certain races are committing more crim….well, this is awkward.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:27 pm to TJG210
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Crime no….and to be 100% honest, if you don’t live in a neighborhood do you really know for a fact?
Yes, I can know it to be as close to a fact as possible without already living there.
What you're engaging in is a logical fallacy known as the "appeal to experience" or "anecdotal fallacy." This fallacy occurs when someone dismisses another person's opinion or argument simply because that person has not personally experienced the same thing, or in this case, relies on collected data to form an informed opinion. It disregards the possibility of forming valid opinions based on research based on anything except personal experience.
You may as well say "if you don't live at the border do you really know for a fact that illegals are crossing it?" Or maybe "if you don't live in Fenton or never have gotten a speeding ticket while speeding through there, do you really know for a fact that they write tickets to people speeding through there?" Or even "if you've never been to the Moon, do you really know for a fact it isn't made of cheese?"
A crime heat map shows time, date and types of crimes being reported to police in a given area and even down to the address.
For instance, I can look here and find out not only where crimes are happening, I can find out what types of crimes (getting granular to the point of specific charges) and over whatever period of time I like (as long as they have records for it).
I can look at homicides over the last three months and see "hmmm, if I want to have less chance of being murdered, then I shouldn't even bother with properties north of Florida between 110 and Airline while also avoiding anything west of 110 between Harding and Airline."
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School districts and such yea
Why? What's the difference between providing school district information and crime information?
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:50 pm to 4cubbies
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Are you trying to suggest people will have to … do their own research about a large investment they are considering making?
Will the realtor provide that information if asked? If they will, why won’t they just put it on the website? Disingenuous is one of your main attributes.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:03 pm to shutterspeed
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crime data does not accurately answer the question about how safe an area around a home is.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:35 pm to shutterspeed
So let me get this straight.
Gentrification = bad
Showing crime that may deter people from gentrifying = also bad
Gentrification = bad
Showing crime that may deter people from gentrifying = also bad
Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:36 pm to the808bass
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Will the realtor provide that information if asked? If they will, why won’t they just put it on the website? Disingenuous is one of your main attributes.
I think it’s stupid that they’re taking it off the website, but why can’t the buyer just research it for themselves? You’re making a several thousand dollar purchase, do some due diligence.
If a client asks me for that type of information I’ll send them the website if they don’t feel like googling it themselves.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:44 pm to Bard
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Why? What's the difference between providing school district information and crime information?
One is a fact, the other is subjective.
I’m not saying I agree with it, but an agent making statements regarding it you’re inviting problems.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:46 pm to TJG210
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the other is subjective.
Crime data is not subjective. It’s the opposite of subjective.
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