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re: Baldwin charged again
Posted on 1/20/24 at 4:41 am to tirebiter
Posted on 1/20/24 at 4:41 am to tirebiter
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Baldwin said long ago that he had drawn the hammer partially back with his thumb and it slipped and the pistol fired.
Problem is, that pistol can't fire unless the trigger is pulled, not to mention, if you only pull the hammer back partially and let it go, the hammer wouldn't fall on a round. The magazine doesn't fully turn and lock the fresh round into position until the hammer is fully cocked.
If Baldwin had told the truth, he could have asked for forgiveness and gotten off light probably, but he lied and now he's in a world of shite.
The people who will be on his jury, they know about firearms, he's not going to fool them.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 5:08 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:14 am to auggie
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not to mention, if you only pull the hammer back partially and let it go, the hammer wouldn't fall on a round. The magazine doesn't fully turn and lock the fresh round into position until the hammer is fully cocked.
Who said there were any spent rounds in the cylinder? They all could have been live, unspent, rounds which would make this a moot point.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:32 am to MikeBRLA
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Who said there were any spent rounds in the cylinder? They all could have been live, unspent, rounds which would make this a moot point.
It wouldn't matter, even if the pistol was full of live rounds.
Until the hammer is fully cocked, no round would be in position for the firing pin to strike the primer and as already has been mentioned, without pulling the trigger, the hammer can't strike the firing pin anyway.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:43 am to ReauxlTide222
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Why do we hate this guy?
Because he made fun of Trump a few times. Keep up baw
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:10 am to blizzle
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Can't speak for others, but Baldwin's complete lack of ownership for his role in this death rubbed me the wrong way.
With pending lawsuits and charges, it’s hard to publicly own something before it’s resolved
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:13 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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They specifically told him it was a harmless prop not a loaded weapon. There were two people, the armorer and assistant director, who were supposed to make sure there was no chance the gun could fire a live round.
He unfortunately has the issue of being not just an actor here but running the set and being their boss.
The fact that they had multiple issues with live rounds prior allegedly will be a real challenge for his liability
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:16 am to dallastigers
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Didn’t his 2nd director supposedly check gun as well and told everyone it was “cold” or whatever term they use? I have not paid attention to the more recent factual updates, but I thought I remember members of the cast & crew using the guns for target practices. I would like to find out what added procedures they were supposed to have in place for using real guns that are at times also being used to fire real ammo by actors & crew when gun not used in scenes.
The problem is live rounds shouldn’t have been anywhere near set, yet alone having the guns flip flopped between props and people allegedly messing around with live fire during off time.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:17 am to mmcgrath
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He made fun of Trump on SNL. So the minions must make him pay.
To people like you, that’s his get-out-of-jail-free card. Never mind that a woman died because of his actions.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:17 am to NoSaint
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The problem is live rounds shouldn’t have been anywhere near set, yet alone having the guns flip flopped between props and people allegedly messing around with live fire during off time.
And because of this, he doesn’t need to be the only person charged.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:56 am to 0x15E
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Why do we hate this guy?
Because he made fun of Trump a few times. Keep up baw
No, it's because he's a mean fricking cocksucker who killed some poor girl on the set of a movie because he's a bad person. Try and keep up.
I always thought he was a great actor whether it was drama or comedy. But he has been a mean a-hole for a long time. I remember the recordings of him calling his young daughter a "rude, thoughtless pig" when he was going through one of his divorces (shocking - sarcasm).
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:03 am to Godfather1
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He made fun of Trump on SNL. So the minions must make him pay.
To people like you, that’s his get-out-of-jail-free card. Never mind that a woman died because of his actions.
Many do not understand the mindset of those like the thing you responded to. Leftists dream of the day they can do what Baldwin did to fellow Americans and get away with it. Baldwin is an a-hole to the Nth degree, and his hatred for those that don't think like the leftist/moderate posters here is well known. That is why you see comments like this from Progressives.
Of course this is all fine and OK. He's one of them.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:08 am to Proximo
Too bad there wasn’t a good guy with a gun on that set to take out Baldwin on his killing spree.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:12 am to Godfather1
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And because of this, he doesn’t need to be the only person charged.
He’s not. The set’s armorer goes to trial next week. And another guy has already pled guilty.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:16 am to PNW_TigerSaint
I’d be smoking some Marlboro’s
Posted on 1/20/24 at 2:43 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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But he has been a mean a-hole for a long time. I remember the recordings of him calling his young daughter a "rude, thoughtless pig"
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:29 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Why do we hate this guy? Is he a nasty liberal or something?
I don't hate the guy. He's extremely talented: Glengarry Glen Ross, Canteen Boy...
That said, I think he hates me. Any time someone perpetrates a conspicuous act of gun violence, he blames me for something I have in my closet that I take out maybe twice a year to punch holes in paper. He knows he can't legally take it away from me, so he advocates for laws that will just sort of make it look stupid and humiliating. Google "California legal AK" and you'll see what I mean.
It doesn't matter that the people who perpetrate these acts are nothing like me:
The closet homosexual Muslim who shot up a gay nightclub out of self-loathing
The crazy young lesbian abusing testosterone who shot people at a Christian school
The longtime government accountant who (gosh, damnedest thing!) just went haywire one day on a Country music festival, "For No Reason At All"
The half-Asian child of Hollywood elites who shot frat boys with a Sig from the safety of the BMW his parents bought him
The thousands of shiftless black men who mill around gas stations all day armed, with predictable results
Nope, Baldwin doesn't talk about those people. Unlike me, he doesn't want them scared back into the recesses at the periphery of civilized society where they belong. No, he says the problem is this suburban homeowner with a job, who votes and keeps his yard clean.
Or maybe Baldwin just hates me and the gun thing was all a ruse. I'm gonna go with that explanation... in light of, you know, the shooting and all that .
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:35 pm to blizzle
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Baldwin's complete lack of ownership for his role in this death rubbed me the wrong way.
Wouldn’t the gun be the responsibility of the prop department?
Is it usual for actors to bear responsibility of malfunctioning movie props?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 4:29 pm to TCO
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Wouldn’t the gun be the responsibility of the prop department?
It is the responsibility of everyone who handles a firearm to check the status of it.
It doesn't take more than 2 seconds to do that.
Even when I'm gun shopping and the guy checks a gun before he hands it to me and I see him do it, the first thing I do is check it again.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 6:38 pm to auggie
quote:What I understand is that it's the movie industry protocol to defer to the armorer.quote:
Wouldn’t the gun be the responsibility of the prop department?
It is the responsibility of everyone who handles a firearm to check the status of it.
It doesn't take more than 2 seconds to do that.
Even when I'm gun shopping and the guy checks a gun before he hands it to me and I see him do it, the first thing I do is check it again.
The issue at play is that there is/may be a whole lot of people who might handle said gun/prop, and you can not rely on their experience or training. Therefore, the armorer is God, and you follow their commands to the letter. If they hand you a prop, you don't frick with it. That includes press-checking, opening the cylinder, dropping the mag, etc. THEY can do that, they can tell you to do that, but you don't do it without permission.
Because they don't want to hand you a prop, turn away from you to hand another out, and suddenly you're fricking around with it without eyes on you.
If you disagree with that, if you will check it if handed one anyway on set, consider a moment if you are the armorer instead of the actor. You have assured the gun is clear, handed it to him, turned away to the next person, and suddenly you hear racking or cylinder spinning.
You would then turn around and take it from them, and in no uncertain words say "do not ever do that again" before you hand it back to them, after confirming they didn't load it or something. It doesn't matter if the person is a former SEAL, or a 10 yr old kid who's never seen a live gun- you treat everyone the same way. You have to, because it's your job/career/livelihood on the line.
So in that setting, you have Baldwin, who's made a lot of big budget films, and used to following the (competent) armorer's direction. Has done so for 3 decades. As *ACTOR*, he doesn't know (for sure) if it's even a real gun, or a well-made prop piece. He is (should be) operating on the understanding that the armorer is doing their job, and not handing out live loaded guns, live grenades, real sticks of dynamite, vials of nerve gas, cyanide laced gum etc. Or maybe as an example, when handling a plunger, it isn't "really" going to set off a bunch of explosives and blow the bridge or whatever. Even if said plunger does have wires running over to the bridge, and you know at some point the bridge actually WILL be blown as a 'real' effect.
That's what's supposed to be going on, at least.
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