American Nightmare — Netflix documentary

It’s tough to watch. I expect some level of incompetence from local PD especially with a story that wild. But the conflict of interest that was permitted by the FBI in that investigation was stunning. They simply refused to follow the evidence. Frick the FBI

People need to understand the purpose of the police force is not to protect and serve. Will it work out at times they save people? Of course. But that is not their purpose. And what’s scary is not only are they not there to serve you, as a whole, they are not of great intelligence.

The fact the detective that fumbled the entire thing branding a rape and kidnap victim as a criminal won detective of the year the same year

Watching now. Just the first 30 min is a little bizarre.

The story is very strange, but if you wanted to pull off a kidnapping, just do bizarre stuff in the act and you'll buy yourself time or pull it off is what I'm seeing.

But the police interrogation is really superficial. They're bad at it. I would think that the police should take his story serious until they have evidence to the contrary.

Also, watching Aaron's testimony with the police, he is less emotional/angry/scared than I would be. People handle things differently, but calm isn't normal IMO.

I wish they would have touched on the potential others that worked with Muller. They touched on the blow up doll for a second. Did this dude set up a blow up doll pretending it was another accomplice? What about the other people Denise heard at the cabin?

I watched it this week. Really well done.

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Didn’t realize the astronomical incompetency of the police and FBI out there in California

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It wasn’t incompetency, it was intentional. They made their minds up about what they thought was going on and that was it. No investigation necessary.

I somewhat understood Det. Mustard’s questioning of the boyfriend. He was trying to sift through and see if he actually killed her. But the part where he said that he was trying to find a way to make him a “monster” shows that he already had his mind made up.

The FBI stuff was ridiculous. They said they looked in to it and the investigation was proper. Even if the investigation was done correctly 100%, it’s still a conflict of interest and they should have pulled the agent.

The guy and girl are freaking lucky that the cop who found the evidence didn’t just file it away like so many detectives would have done. If she didn’t pursue it, then there would still be people that didn’t believe them as to what happened.

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Didn’t realize the astronomical incompetency of the police and FBI out there in California,

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Then you've never heard of this.

"The case was part of day-care sex-abuse hysteria, a moral panic over alleged Satanic ritual abuse in the 1980s." The Parents and interviewing Psychologists suggested to children that the school had underground tunnels for Satanic rituals, daycare employees flew in the air and had sex with animals.

McMartin preschool witch hunt hoax

The media, the California authorities, California judicial system all conspired to ruin peoples lives. It is the longest trial in American history...7 years. Until all the charges were dropped. You would think of course the media would jump on this and sell it but the police, FBI and judicial system?

I caught the last half of the documentary. Did they say how Muller got into the home?

There's a podcast called Crimanl that did two episodes on this a year or so ago. Had more interviews with them and went into a little more details about the kidnapping. One of the better episodes of a really great podcast. Haven't finished the documentary and I had never looked up photos of the couple but oddly enough they looked very similar to what I had pictured them looking like in my head. Unlike how completely different Joe Exotic looked when I finally saw him

Why did he want to go after the guys previous fiancé. It’s like they said, oh well, fbi guy used to date ex fiancé, but no problem.