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Kevin O’Leary Explains to CNN Audience, NYC Case Against President Trump is Nonsense

Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119556 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:38 pm
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Everything about the case in New York City against the Trump organization business operations is ridiculous. There are no victims. There was no fraud. All of the lenders did their own due diligence. All of the loans were paid back without issue and the statement of financial condition was factual and accurate. There were no defaults or banking interests adversely impacted. There are no victims of what the State calls “fraud.”

New York Attorney General Latisha James campaigned for office with promises to target the Trump Organization and Donald Trump himself. This is malicious lawfare in the extreme. Additionally, the statute being used as the predicate for the case is a consumer fraud statute, intended to protect borrowers from predatory lenders. In the four corners of this case, Trump is the borrower, and the banks were the lenders. New York is flipping the statute to claim the borrower defrauded the lenders, despite the lenders denying there was any fraud and there was no harm. The entire case is ridiculous.

Appearing on CNN, O’Leary Ventures Chairman Kevin O’Leary outlines to a perplexed Laura Coates why Donald Trump’s civil fraud trial in New York is political nonsense. WATCH (prompted):

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Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116954 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:39 pm to
Its complete nonsense.

He's still gonna get hit though despite it being complete nonsense.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:41 pm to
The no victims thing is a weak argument

If I speed and don't cause an accident I'm still breaking traffic laws

Either his business committed fraud or it didn't. Whether or not someone was the victim of that is immaterial.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79505 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:54 pm to
This is the price you pay when you organize an insurrection that has people trying to murder Mike Pence complete with gallows.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
978 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:39 pm to
The fact that this judge can be as openly bias as he has been and not be punished is unreal. He should be removed from his job and disbarred so he can never practice law in any compacity again. This is what is truly wrong here. The fbi, da, judges and prosecuters are being allowed to run rough shot and do whatever they want with no accountability and this has to end.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20058 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:40 pm to

Two idiot dems who ran for office based on their campaign promises to "get Trump" are conspiring to get Trump. That is criminal on its face.


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CIVIL RIGHTS CONSPIRACY


18 U.S.C. § 241

Conspiracy Against Rights

Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.

Unlike most conspiracy statutes, §241 does not require, as an element, the commission of an overt act.

The offense is always a felony, even if the underlying conduct would not, on its own, establish a felony violation of another criminal civil rights statute. It is punishable by up to ten years imprisonment unless the government proves an aggravating factor (such as that the offense involved kidnapping aggravated sexual abuse, or resulted in death) in which case it may be punished by up to life imprisonment and, if death results, may be eligible for the death penalty.

Section 241 is used in Law Enforcement Misconduct and Hate Crime Prosecutions. It was historically used, before conspiracy-specific trafficking statutes were adopted, in Human Trafficking prosecutions.




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MISCONDUCT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT & OTHER GOVERNMENT ACTORS


18 U.S.C. § 242

Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This provision makes it a crime for someone acting under color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. It is not necessary that the offense be motivated by racial bias or by any other animus.

Defendants act under color of law when they wield power vested by a government entity. Those prosecuted under the statute typically include police officers, sheriff’s deputies, and prison guards. However other government actors, such as judges, district attorneys, other public officials, and public school employees can also act under color of law and can be prosecuted under this statute.

Section 242 does not criminalize any particular type of abusive conduct. Instead, it incorporates by reference rights defined by the Constitution, federal statutes, and interpretive case law. Cases charged by federal prosecutors most often involve physical or sexual assaults. The Department has also prosecuted public officials for thefts, false arrests, evidence-planting, and failing to protect someone in custody from constitutional violations committed by others.

A violation of the statute is a misdemeanor, unless prosecutors prove one of the statutory aggravating factors such as a bodily injury, use of a dangerous weapon, kidnapping, aggravated sexual abuse, death resulting, or attempt to kill, in which case there are graduated penalties up to and including life in prison or death. If charged in conjunction with 18 U.S.C. § 250, as noted below, all sexual assaults under color of law are felonies.


https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-criminal-section#:~:text=18%20U.S.C.%20%C2%A7%20242&text=This%20provision%20makes%20it%20a,laws%20of%20the%20United%20States.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25127 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:15 pm to
This is all so dumb.

I’m no real estate developer, but if he wanted to save money on his taxes ( as they allege ) wouldn’t “grossly overstating” the value of his property be a really fricking dumb thing for him to do?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63753 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:23 pm to
The law of fraud in NY doesn’t require
the victims to complain or even suffer significant injury. It’s the act itself that meets the elements of the crime.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
26095 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:42 pm to
That was epic. And the CNN anchorette didn't even badger or attack him. Not too much. That was almost proper journalism on display.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8571 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:40 am to
These cases are not designed to do anything other than pull Trump off the campaign. It is a time and resource drain. They know this will be overturned on appeal ,but now Trump has to go through the appeals process. His rallies are very effective and they know it. That is what this is all about.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 5:06 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57593 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:21 am to
I'm beginning to believe that all of this nonsense against Trump is starting to unravel.
Posted by rwestmore7
Walker, LA
Member since Nov 2007
406 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:40 am to
People are arrested all the time for victimless crimes and then they go to jail.

Prostitution
Assisted suicide
Recreational drug use
Drug possession
Gambling
Public drunkenness
Possession of contraband
Homelessness
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