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The state of the outdoors in Louisiana, how will it be for our kids/grandkids? Long read

Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:56 am
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1660 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:56 am
I’ve had a rough last 3-4 years with outdoors related incidents. In my 50s, did not grow up a country boy. New Orleans until I was 14 then Shreveport. Dad only fished and squirrel hunted but some Hs buddies got me into deer hunting at around 16. Learned to hunt public land in NW La, never had money for hunting club, even less so now. Never really had issues my first I’d say 30 years hunting. I also have 100 acres of dad’s land in NW La. He and my uncle bought a long time ago and dad eventually bought my uncle out.

3 years ago in September took my back then around 13 y/o out to scout. We even in September wore orange. Within 30 minutes someone was firing a shotgun our direction, very loud and close and I started hollering, this is public land. They fired several shots until I kept screaming and they stopped. I come to them and it’s a grown man and woman looked to be my age. They apologized and said they were just having fun shooting and didn’t realize we were there.

Fast forward the following spring I have my son and younger son at a pond in public area fishing. We see people on other side of pond go over and sit down to what I assumed was them fishing. Next thing you know we hear a rifle shooting our direction. I scream at my kids to run and I’m yelling at the people. They just waved back. Not even one month later I meet my brother to fish Loutre. We go out in boat and within 5 minutes hear a rifle shooting and hit brush behind us. We are ducking down in boat, again yelling and nothing. Few minutes later several shots. We go back to where he parked and left.

Here’s the big one. That 100 acres is my dad’s. Brother, sister and I have access but I’m the only one that hunts it. A distant elderly cousin gives a random dude permission to hunt it, a cousin that has 0 rights to the land. There is a field about 12-15 acres that dad leases for someone to get hay. 25 plus years ago dad planted about 10 persimmon trees. Last summer while we hadn’t been out there this guy goes, puts up a box stand and cuts down the trees to have a better shooting view. We finally figured out who it was and I called him. I told him to stay away, he apologized for cutting the trees down but was blown away that I was in disbelief with him putting up a box stand out there. I have no box stands fwiw, I don’t mess with the woods, only hunt climbers or fallen tree tops.

Hunting leases are getting high and many friends are getting out of them. Some known public WMAs have shut down, urban sprawl. Am I just getting old and yelling at clouds? Did 50 year olds bitch about this in 1982? Or does future look grim for our kids unless they have good money?


Eta: I no longer follow La hunting pages on FB but even they are depressing to read. Is walking a long ways in the woods now suddenly something to brag about My dad did that until he was in his early 70s. I still do it. Is bashing people for killing a small buck a thing now? Why?
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:07 am
Posted by livnthehighlife
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2012
411 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:06 am to
A lot to process here Shroom!
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18530 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:48 am to
quote:

A distant elderly cousin gives a random dude permission to hunt it, a cousin that has 0 rights to the land.


Cousin would be getting his arse whipped. I had a similar incident with my land. Distant cousin asked if he could go ride his 4 wheeler. I told him yes. Well he brought 12 people out riding and shooting shite. I saw on my game camera. Showed up and told them they had 5 minutes to get their shite off my place and if they ever came back was going to big problems..
Posted by bobdylan
Cankton
Member since Aug 2018
1534 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:32 pm to
That is frustrating. I hunt public land. Saturday, I ran into another hunter on the water and we talked several minutes. He has a lot more experience on this place than me and he shared a lot of information about what he was seeing, general areas, and pictures he had, etc. He was way more generous with information than I’d be and I’d like to approach other hunters I meet, more like him in the future. Point being there are all types of hunters out there, knuckle heads and courteous, nice folks.

Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19788 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:39 pm to
You’re the prime example of why Hunter numbers are decreasing. The lack of a quality experience drives more people away from the sport than anything else.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83694 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:58 pm to
I’ve hunted public land all my life in LA. From my experience, it’s better than ever.

We used to go a full season and maybe see 5 deer. Now we see 5 deer per hunt on average.

We still have dipshits here and there, but that has always been the case.

Private leases seem to have become too much bickering over rules and whatnot for me to really consider getting back into a lease, unless it’s only family.



Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4955 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 6:54 pm to
Don't worry, the know nothing that our new governor appointed to head LWF will straighten everything out.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26187 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:07 am to
Hunting numbers will continue to decline due to hunter safety course requirements.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19550 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 6:28 am to
I own a small piece of land in North La, I've had cameras out for years and the biggest buck on it might push 140-150".

I'm starting to think one paid hunt to Kansas and a chance at a 160+ might be a better investment than keeping corn out, traveling back and forth, dealing with trespassing rednecks on and on.
Posted by MobileJosh
On the go
Member since May 2018
1065 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 7:42 am to
To be honest, you sound like the type of clueless idiot who makes public land hunting unbearable. So, uh, look in the mirror.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5751 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:30 am to
I’ve heard or seen the following first hand from Louisiana hunters-
Having six buck tags because wife has a license, but doesn’t hunt.
Deer hunting Kansas without a deer tag
Killing a Kansas buck, yet continuing to hunt for another one
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4780 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:48 pm to
You sound like a very unlucky person, I'd stay out of the woods for sure!

If I had to hunt public land, I'd probably hang it up. Stick to your 100 acres.
Posted by Guess_who
Member since Dec 2018
161 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 2:58 pm to
Haven't hunted Louisiana yet but have hunted most other states and have been traveling since the 90s. Social media has ruined it and no it will not ever get better. Turkeys were my first love and NOBODY hardly hunted them. Now there's jackwagons everywhere with a Shotgun. States are already going to a draw system and eventually every state will be a draw.

ONX and ebikes have ruined a lot of areas. The fear of getting lost is gone and now the 300lb fat arse can ride back to areas in 30 minutes that would take me 2.5 hours to walk.
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