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re: China Is Gearing Up to Invade
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:39 pm to TigersnJeeps
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:39 pm to TigersnJeeps
Yes, it's great.
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:22 pm to bluedragon
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The three Gorges Dam is an invitation to disaster.
I wasn't even referring to that. We close Malacca, the Timor Sea, and the southern route around Australia and the Chinese are enjoying their famine in complete darkness within 6 months.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:30 pm to Ribbed
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China Is Gearing Up to Invade
Happy new years from the Biden Regime boys.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:34 pm to tigersbh
When China decides to cross the water, Taiwan isn’t going to be around long enough for the $$ to get there.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:44 pm to TaipeiTiger
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I agree with a lot of your points. One thing that China has done recently is destroy non-essential crops produced by farmers. They mandate now is grain and rice. Personally, I believe it will be a drone war to start. There are currently US Marines training specialized military here.
The ground army is a joke. Their training is terrible which consists of sweeping floors, washing windows (no I'm not making fun of karate kid) and they literally fire 4-10 bullets throughout the 4months to a year of mandatory service.
China anding a ground assault will be very hard as beach heads are small and shorelines are already packed with anti landing structures. They are also currently lining river ways.
Unfortunately I don't think the chips act will help in getting an advanced chip manufacturer into the UA. At least not from TSMC. The worker demand needed and pay is something that is hard to hire. I have friends who work there telling me this why it won't work. Americans aren't simply willing to work for 12 hours with mediocre pay. It would have to be subsidized by the US government which could happen to meet worker pay demands.
TSMC is putting over $40 Billion into Arizona alone right now. They offered me some serious money to work for them but I didn't want to move. The labor model is different in the US but they also are getting subsidized and save a ton by making the chips in the US. Intel is also going to be making a run at TSMC and focus more on manufacturing.
My point on the training is less about those folks being elite warriors but moreso that they have at least been exposed. On an island of over 40 million it doesn't take much, if 5% want to really fight there is no way China can take the island. As you mentioned it's going to be virtually impossible to land and if they do it is going to have to be in a limited number of small spaces with an extremely well prepared force waiting for them that heavily outnumbers the invaders. I just don't know how that works.
Unless China can find a way to get at least 2 million or so troops on the island I don't see it working and I don't know of any realistic way China gets 20% of that, probably a lot less. You have to have total air superiority combined with naval superiority and a protected landing area to get those troops there. It's just such an improbable scenario and for it to even get to step 1 it means China has to feel confident the US and Japan won't get involved because is either does it's over, China will be lucky to get any ships to the island at all.
In the end if China wants it bad enough and is willing to take that much risk it has a shot. It just will end them if they do and they won't really gain much. It's not like they will be able to just take over TSMC with the factories intact and start shipping product. The Taiwan they will capture will be a giant rubble filled with rebels that are armed in the mountains and will resist until the end.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:52 pm to Lsupimp
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Oh and this "China is being patient" argument doesn't fly. China is in full demographic and financial collapse right now
Upvoted your post because I agree but take issue with the above. Eventually China WILL merge with Taiwan. It will just happen in a post Communist world. Think 100 years from now.
100 years from now? Hell the CCP likely won't be in charge in the next 20 years and China will likely revert back to their mean which is a deeply divided country operated by various warlords and groups who are constantly at war with each other. 100 years and who knows who is in charge there. Hell the country will have about half the population in 50 years at current rates, maybe less. The level of demographic collapse there is hard to overstate.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:00 am to Plx1776
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And we will send billions and billions of dollars to Taiwan.
We are constantly hurting ourselves for places that 99.999% of Americans will never visit. Gotta have that external conflict to justify unfettered and unaccountable funds being shipped out..
Nope. Taiwan is a wealthy 1st World country that begs us to BUY things, they have strong financials. They don't need us to subsidize them. This isn't Ukraine.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:10 am to Boodis Man
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there's nothing the US can do to stop china from taking taiwan.
it would be a mistake to get involved.
The US can absolutely prevent China from invading Taiwan if we want to. I do agree though the less direct involvement the better.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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When "covid" was spread to the world in 2020.
It was here way before February 2020. That's just when they pulled the trigger on the power grab.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 1:50 am to Ribbed
Pretty sure it's 2/10
Posted on 1/1/24 at 2:31 am to No Colors
They will use their Chinese Piss Balloons they flew over our country this year.
Instead if Piss, maybe the 2024 bioweapon of choice! This world will not have many big land invasions In the beginning, it will all be cyber, EMP’s, bioweapons, blockades etc….
Only extreme physical wars could be on US soil when they cause anarchy this year and start handing out weapons to all the illegals.
Instead if Piss, maybe the 2024 bioweapon of choice! This world will not have many big land invasions In the beginning, it will all be cyber, EMP’s, bioweapons, blockades etc….
Only extreme physical wars could be on US soil when they cause anarchy this year and start handing out weapons to all the illegals.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 5:44 am to aggressor
Came here to post the demographic argument. China is in decline. Their economy will never eclipse the US economy, which I understand saddens many on this board. The population bomb that china cannot avoid means they have failed to get rich before they got old.
However, I believe this makes PRC decision making more likely to be irrational. Presented with evidence of decline and sensing a threat to the power of the party, there are elements of the Chinese government that might do something stupid. They can’t win, but they could certainly wreck Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, as well as their own most prosperous regions. Asymmetrical warfare, like EMP weapons could even threaten the continental US. This would all lead to a significant global economic collapse. The next 10 years will be dangerous ones and it won’t matter what the US does as the driver of the action will be China’s own perception of how much time they have left to act.
However, I believe this makes PRC decision making more likely to be irrational. Presented with evidence of decline and sensing a threat to the power of the party, there are elements of the Chinese government that might do something stupid. They can’t win, but they could certainly wreck Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, as well as their own most prosperous regions. Asymmetrical warfare, like EMP weapons could even threaten the continental US. This would all lead to a significant global economic collapse. The next 10 years will be dangerous ones and it won’t matter what the US does as the driver of the action will be China’s own perception of how much time they have left to act.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:40 am to MAXtheTIGER
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Came here to post the demographic argument. China is in decline. Their economy will never eclipse the US economy, which I understand saddens many on this board. The population bomb that china cannot avoid means they have failed to get rich before they got old.
However, I believe this makes PRC decision making more likely to be irrational. Presented with evidence of decline and sensing a threat to the power of the party, there are elements of the Chinese government that might do something stupid. They can’t win, but they could certainly wreck Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, as well as their own most prosperous regions. Asymmetrical warfare, like EMP weapons could even threaten the continental US. This would all lead to a significant global economic collapse. The next 10 years will be dangerous ones and it won’t matter what the US does as the driver of the action will be China’s own perception of how much time they have left to act.
Excellent post. To me the key for the US is to disengage with China as much as possible and try not to overtly threaten them. Same with Russia. Let them die on their own. If we make ourselves the threat they will lash out at us. Let them fight their own battles as much as possible.
The thing you have to remember is the top priority of the CCP (which is really just Xi now, he's more of a Dictator than Mao was at this point) is to remain in power. The main value when talking about invading Taiwan or actions against the US is trying to show a common threat to rally people against. It's not about some idea of Chinese conquest, they are completely incapable of doing so. That's why the Taiwan situation is so delicate. You don't want to overtly threaten China but you also want to make sure they understand it simply isn't worth it to try and invade Taiwan.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:50 am to Ribbed
Praying Tawain strikes the China communist headquarters and take the evil leaders out so Chinese people can be freed.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:53 am to No Colors
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This whole "China is about to invade Taiwan" thing is absurd.
I’ll give you credit: I’ve grown so tired of the increasing idiocy in this board that I can’t bring myself to write these truth bombs anymore.
The same posters that decry all the interventionism of everybody but Trump will spout this nonsense, even though they have never set foot in either Taiwan or China.
Idiots, all of them.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:01 am to Ribbed
They may not need much of an invasion at all. Xi probably hired Torie Nuland and Christina Pushaw to run a color revolution to ensure the communist under Xi wins and Biden halped with Obama,
With Kerry flying in on the sly to help with the propaganda. Will they run on 'yes we can' change we can believe in?
Which military aircraft will secretly fly antifa in? Xi paid for the help and is laughing his arse off. China is asshoe.
With Kerry flying in on the sly to help with the propaganda. Will they run on 'yes we can' change we can believe in?
Which military aircraft will secretly fly antifa in? Xi paid for the help and is laughing his arse off. China is asshoe.
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 11:04 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:49 am to aggressor
Maybe there is a way out.
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