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Mortgage rates fall below 7% for the first time in months

Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:50 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7103 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:50 am
Mortgage rates hit the 6% range for the first time since August, and many housing economists believe that trend could continue.

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The average rate on the 30-year mortgage dropped to 6.95% from 7.03% the week before, according to Freddie Mac on Thursday. Rates fell for the seventh consecutive week and hit the lowest level since early August when rates were 6.96%.

Thanks to bullish overall inflation data, housing experts are predicting near-future rate cuts that will bring mortgage rates even closer to 6%, helping the slow and expensive US housing market that has sidelined many homeowners and prospective buyers over the last 12 months.


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Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6460 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 5:33 am to
The scramble from all of the folks sitting on the sidelines the last 8 months is about to push the modest home price decreases back up.
Posted by questionable
FL
Member since Apr 2008
1024 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 6:23 am to
Everyone waiting on the crash about to be crying when prices go up again next year. Houses are just sitting on the market right now, no one is dropping prices. Rates will continue to drop and these homes will get scooped up, new list prices will rise.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29275 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:03 am to
Yeah, this will probably stop any price declines.

We are closing on a house on 1/3. We got a pretty good deal (relatively speaking).

We will probably put our current house for sale mid/late February. I'm hoping the rates will excite more buyers.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49028 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:06 am to
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Yeah, this will probably stop any price declines


Lower rates will cause increases for sure. Only inventory increases can help lower prices
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74157 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:23 am to
So the RE Agents are going to be correct
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14488 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:26 am to
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Lower rates will cause increases for sure. Only inventory increases can help lower prices

Inventory increases will be difficult unless they are new homes because lots of people still sitting in their current homes on 30 year rates between 2 and 4 % from a few years ago. I think the magic number to finally get these people to start moving would be between 4 and 5 percent.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15522 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:35 am to
quote:

So the RE Agents are going to be correct
Clocks are right twice a day too.

I say that as a 30m realtor, I know how dumb about 90% of the agents are.
Posted by itsbigmikey
NASHVILLE
Member since Aug 2018
363 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:04 am to
Y'all think the proper damage has been done and/or the fed is just going to let everything reinflate? Something bad is brewing and bonds are outperforming equities. Powell just said higher for longer a month ago and now they talk rate cuts? Saw a quote that feels relevant: "The fed lowers rate at the end of an expansion, not the beginning of a new one."

I think a short term bull market may be here but something sinister is coming. I'm not some guru or genius so take this post for what it's worth but if y'all believe the fed engineered a soft landing then y'all have much more faith in them than I do.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3163 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:06 am to
I'm a homebuilder. We are working on signing 5 contracts in December. We usually maybe sign 1 in December typically.
Posted by itsbigmikey
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Member since Aug 2018
363 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:12 am to
This is proving my point. The economy is still way too hot for rate cuts. The fed knows something. The system didn't break enough to garner a cut IMO. We shall see
Posted by itsbigmikey
NASHVILLE
Member since Aug 2018
363 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:19 am to

I'll leave this here as a reminder. Hope I'm so wrong about all of this but it's worth considering
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3163 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:23 am to
Using interest rates to manage inflation with a housing shortage is just kicking the can down the road. Our customers never went away. They are just sitting on the side line waiting for interest rates to come back to the 5-6% range.
We are a small custom builder that will do 20-40 houses per year. December is usually a dead month for us.
There needs to be another vehicle to manage inflation.(fiscal policy)
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82056 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:27 am to
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Hope I'm so wrong about all of this
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3163 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:28 am to
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This is proving my point. The economy is still way too hot for rate cuts. The fed knows something. The system didn't break enough to garner a cut IMO. We shall see


Electioneering for 2024.
RASMUSSEN-Trump opens 10 point lead over Biden.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 8:31 am
Posted by itsbigmikey
NASHVILLE
Member since Aug 2018
363 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Electioneering for 2024.
RASMUSSEN-Trump opens 10 point lead over Biden.


This is very possible and if that's the case buy commodities hand over fist because inflation will be back with a vengeance
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15522 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:47 am to
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We are a small custom builder that will do 20-40 houses per year. December is usually a dead month for us.
I have a couple custom builders who stay fairly steady with work. It’s the track builders I’m seeing with inventory that are having inventory stack up. But their builds are definitely inferior quality.

I’m not having many contacts right now over 300k atm, hoping that changes as most of the ones looking at that 99k house on the market aren’t remotely prepared to handle the issues that come with it.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35549 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 9:54 am to
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Electioneering for 2024. RASMUSSEN-Trump opens 10 point lead over Biden.


Jpow is a trump guy
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33577 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:53 pm to
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I'm a homebuilder. We are working on signing 5 contracts in December. We usually maybe sign 1 in December typically.
That doesn't sound like the sky is falling.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5052 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:06 pm to
Funny a few here and most on the poliboard are pulling against America....saddest folks
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