re: Soldier gets charged $1000 for gear he was told to leave in Afghanistan

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I can't believe this is happening, but the armed forces have been a mess since the 1960's and the failed Vietnam campaign.

It just continues, and is getting worse. The military needs to be revamped from top down, and from sideways across. And to think recruitment targets are in the toilet-- what will we do in the event we are drawn into a war we never chose?

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You vote for this shite.

the same dod that failed an audit 6 years running, that dod,army?, “Last year (2022) during an audit, the Pentagon could only account for 39% of its $3.5 trillion in assets"
2025 need to start cleaning house of obama sycophants!

Why the frick didn’t his command just write the gear off as field loss? That’s bullshite

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Anyone care to explain these acronyms? I have NFC what you’re saying.

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OCIE is Organizational Clothing and Individual Equipment this is your uniforms, boots and things like that.

TA-50 is more the stuff you use in the field, your load bearing vest, assault pack, ruck, poncho, canteens, helmet, sleeping bag, shelter half etc.

FLIPL Financial Liability Investigation of Property Loss this is what the Army uses to account for lost damaged or destroyed equipment that a soldier has signed out in his/her name.

What I want people who have never been in the military to understand is there is no reason to feel bad for this soldier. He went two years without having his required equipment in a Tier 3 unit. It was HIS responsibility to handle the issue as soon as he could. I also wonder how he made it for 2 years without getting caught short. While he may not have been in one of the 82nd's BCTs I would be surprised any unit in the 82nd goes longer than a year without an inventory. At minimum we always had a brigade-level inventory when rotated into IRF-1 status.


The bottom line is he went two years without his proper equipment. He was literally in dereliction of duty. When I was a platoon leader and company commander had he come to me immediately afterward I would have gone to bat for him and gotten the battalion commander to sign off as no-fault and gotten him replacement equipment issued. If he came to me two years later I wouldn't have done anything for him because he knew he was not combat ready the whole time and said nothing. Then I would have kicked my own arse for not being aware of his lack of equipment for two fricking years.

Charging this soldier $4k for gear left behind in Afghanistan while billions of dollars in high tech equipment was left for the Taliban on orders of the DoD is the epitome of idiocy. Fitting that you’d defend it.

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He went two years without having his required equipment in a Tier 3 unit. It was HIS responsibility to handle the issue as soon as he could.

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So a SPC doing SPC shite.

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I also wonder how he made it for 2 years without getting caught short.

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Good question as his NCOs should have been called to the carpet as to why a soldier owes more than what he makes in base pay in a month. Or how those items went missing and how its been two years.

I was a commo NCO signed for expensive items to include crypto fill devices. They never left my sight if they were out of their safes.

I mean I'm sure a lot of us did hands across America to find sensitive items. Buttholes pucker when a pair of NVGs get misplaced.

Obviously a failure to the E-4 Mafia. What he should have done was strategically transfer equipment to alternate locations.

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Charging this soldier $4k for gear left behind in Afghanistan while billions of dollars in high tech equipment was left for the Taliban on orders of the DoD is the epitome of idiocy. Fitting that you’d defend it.

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I guarantee the issue would have been very simple to take care of at the time. His commander would almost certainly sent a field or combat loss memo with him to CIF. Easy peasy happens all the time and done as long as it wasn't sensitive equipment. He waited 2 years without doing anything about it it is extremely unlikely commander is going to write a combat/field loss memo or support a non-fault FLIPL 2 years after the fact.

I get where you are coming from with the whataboutism but there is no reason to just let someone out of their personal responsibilities when they waited 2 years to confront them. If they would have fricked him 2 years ago I would be 100% with you but after 2 years the story is a little too convenient.

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China is going to go in dry on us.

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You have learned nothing about government.

China is a totalitarian government. These are always hollow shells. The Beloved Leader never gets told, “That’s a stupid idea.” And his ideas, therefore get more and more stupid.

China is finished. The arrogance of Xi led him to believe he held all the cards and could do whatever he wanted. Trump exposed him, and now the entire West is pivoting away from China. And it’s happening just as their population is imploding and their debt is exploding.

You might say so is ours, and it’s true, but as inefficient as our government is, we are still far more efficient than China, which builds high speed rails no one rides and cities no one lives in.

China will make some noise, and they might even take Taiwan. But if they do it will only hasten the Western decoupling, and that will destroy them.

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China is going to go in dry on us.

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And 30 minutes later, they'll want to do it again.