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Is there no way to take gall stones out of the gallbladder?
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:42 pm
Seems like that should be a doable thing in 2023.
Family member is considering gall bladder surgery and I’m like, why not just remove the stones?
ETA: edited title so as not to confuse anyone
Family member is considering gall bladder surgery and I’m like, why not just remove the stones?
ETA: edited title so as not to confuse anyone
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:43 pm to Meauxjeaux
How did you get gall stones in your bladder?
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:43 pm to Meauxjeaux
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gall stones
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of the bladder?
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:45 pm to Meauxjeaux
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I’m like, why not just remove the stones?
So you’d take the stones out and just leave the gallbladder in place for more stones to form?
Sure, that makes sense
In all seriousness, if they’re having issues just get the gallbladder removed. At this point, it’s a quick, outpatient, minimally invasive procedure that most general surgeons perform multiple times per month, if not multiple every week.
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:45 pm to Meauxjeaux
Step 1: put gall stones into the bladder
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:46 pm to Meauxjeaux
If the stones are small and your gallbladder is healthy, you can get lithotripsy to remove the stones
Problem is, most of the time, the gallbladder isn’t healthy by the time surgery is needed
Problem is, most of the time, the gallbladder isn’t healthy by the time surgery is needed
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:48 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Seems like that should be a doable thing in 2023.
I don't think they'll be able to remove a gall stone from the bladder even if it was 2523. Or find one.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:48 pm to Meauxjeaux
Gallbladder removal is a breeze. I had mine out about a month ago and only took two days off work.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:49 pm to Meauxjeaux
The stones are not like kidney stones. Majority of kidney stones are calcium oxilate, which means they hold their form when grasped and respond to breaking up by ultrasound.
Gallbladder stones are like wet sand, they fall apart when grabbing them, meaning we can’t open up the GB and just pull them out. The GB also doesn’t respond well to being opened and closed with sutures, leading to bile leakage. Lastly, the stones don’t absorb the same ultrasonic waves that would break them up. And even if they do, what’s left is wet sand that will reform. That wet sand will go down through the ducts and block them, just like a full stone.
Gallbladder stones are like wet sand, they fall apart when grabbing them, meaning we can’t open up the GB and just pull them out. The GB also doesn’t respond well to being opened and closed with sutures, leading to bile leakage. Lastly, the stones don’t absorb the same ultrasonic waves that would break them up. And even if they do, what’s left is wet sand that will reform. That wet sand will go down through the ducts and block them, just like a full stone.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:52 pm to Meauxjeaux
Laparoscopic cholecystectomy is not a bad surgery to deal with. It’s just the aftermath of the diarrhea that’s difficult to deal with
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:57 pm to Meauxjeaux
Family member is considering gall bladder surgery and I’m like, why not just remove the stones?
Kidney Stones and gall bladder stones are on different systems of the body.
A kidney stone they can go up your pee hole and blast the stone with a laser.
Gallbladder is a little different. It is near your liver and ducts extend into the small intestine to secrete digestive fluid.
It would be a little harder to get the stones out the same way.
Also with disease as one poster put it is more likely that it needs to be removed instead of cleared out of stones.
Kidney Stones and gall bladder stones are on different systems of the body.
A kidney stone they can go up your pee hole and blast the stone with a laser.
Gallbladder is a little different. It is near your liver and ducts extend into the small intestine to secrete digestive fluid.
It would be a little harder to get the stones out the same way.
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Also with disease as one poster put it is more likely that it needs to be removed instead of cleared out of stones.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:59 pm to Meauxjeaux
I had my GB taken out years ago. I had nothing post-surgery to suggest any difference. My dog has his taken in out as well, and he still shits like an elephant.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:05 pm to Meauxjeaux
You have one get lodged somewhere and you will be begging them to take it out so you don’t have to feel that pain again.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:29 pm to Meauxjeaux
Yes after you take out your gallbladder
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:34 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Is there no way to take gall stones out of the gallbladder?
They've been doing it in China for at least 10 years.
The western approach is not to do that because you'll likely get more anyways and if you don't remove it there's a chance for cancer.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:45 pm to Meauxjeaux
IIRC, they can use ultrasonic tech to break up the stones but, if you are having enough stones, they just take the whole damn thing out.
At least one person I know had so many stones that their gallbladder went necrotic and it had to be removed as well as treating surrounding organs like the pancreas because of it.
At least one person I know had so many stones that their gallbladder went necrotic and it had to be removed as well as treating surrounding organs like the pancreas because of it.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 3:21 pm to Meauxjeaux
Emergency lap chole 11/2015 was the start of my physical collapse. The coincident pancreatitis was overlooked and by the time another hospitalization occurred my fate was sealed.
Get a lap chole scheduled rather than hope and pray emergency doesn’t happen. You don’t want to end up with a 36 hour no sleep surgeon. Trust me!
Get a lap chole scheduled rather than hope and pray emergency doesn’t happen. You don’t want to end up with a 36 hour no sleep surgeon. Trust me!
Posted on 10/29/23 at 3:30 pm to Meauxjeaux
Wait what? So they have gall stones? Are they not in pain yet? If I were them I would get it removed ASAP. By far the worse pain I ever experienced.
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