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Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Squedunk
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:32 pm to
On face value, I'm having a hard time believing that.
Posted by MJackson
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:12 pm to
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On face value, I'm having a hard time believing that.


really?

seems VERY easy to believe, considering Israel receives billions in financial and military aid every year from America, and the fact that the iron dome was constructed w/ the help of the US. not to mention the CIA trained Mossad

Israel views the US an ATM that they can withdraw anything they want. what's a few US soldiers to fight on their behalf? why would that be hard to believe?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:15 pm to
The US sends funds to keep their own defense contractors fed. It is illegal to directly fund them.

America hopes to get the Iron Dome technology. US has the most to lose if the partnership broke up.

As for the crash...you realize you can track the helis last moves including the crash.

This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:35 pm to
I have zero doubt that American military have been in Israel since Oct 7, I do doubt that have American military have been dying alongside the Israel military. It’s not 2003 anymore, it would be pretty hard to cover up American casualties in today’s world.
Posted by MJackson
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:44 pm to
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I do doubt that have American military have been dying alongside the Israel military. It’s not 2003 anymore, it would be pretty hard to cover up American casualties in today’s world.


guy in the video has a southern accent. there are american soldiers in combat in the conflict

Youtube

Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:46 pm to
Absolutely no way that could be dubbed
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:51 pm to
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guy in the video has a southern accent. there are american soldiers in combat in the conflict Youtube
no way you watch that video and take it as some fact American troops are in Gaza
Posted by MJackson
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:42 pm to
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no way you watch that video and take it as some fact American troops are in Gaza


I don't take that video as fact, but I take that as a re-inforcing component. the main component is that Colonel Douglas MacGregor stating that it occurred.

Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:00 am to
Show me a video that hasn’t been edited where someone from the Pentagon is clearly admitting US military have fought and died in Israel. The top brass isn’t going to admit that, especially in front of cameras.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:21 am to
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guy in the video has a southern accent. there are american soldiers in combat in the conflict

Youtube


Out of curiosity have you ever watched the movie Inglorious Bastards? If you had you would notice something eerily similiar to the speeches both in the movie and in the IDF meeting. BTW over 5,000 Americans have joined the IDF from across the United States.
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:29 am to
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BTW over 5,000 Americans have joined the IDF from across the United States.


We both know that’s not what he’s talking about. He’s referring to the tip of the spear type of soldier. 40 years ago the Pentagon might be able to hide it, I have a hard time believing in 2023 it would be that easy to cover up.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 1:11 am to
That "tweet" (or whatever Elon is calling them now) seems like BS.

Part is talking about Delta/CAG, but includes a 160th SOAR patch. Delta is among their customers, but far from the only one. They're stationed at Ft Campbell. Delta works out of a compound at Ft Bragg (or Ft Liberace or whatever politically correct/gay name the Army is calling it now.)

Another part mentions Blackwater. Blackwater changed their name about 10 years ago after lighting up that traffic circle in Iraq. I think it became Xe Services then. No telling what it's called now. And when does a General officer lead a tunnel clearing op?

I'm calling bullshite.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 1:25 am to
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No telling what it's called now. And when does a General officer lead a tunnel clearing op?


Strangely the officers do lead in the Israeli defense forces which is why the overwhelming majority of deaths have been officers.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:51 am to
But I believe the tweet was referring to deaths involving Delta and "Blackwater" mercs.
Maybe I misunderstood.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:50 am to
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Strangely the officers do lead in the Israeli defense forces which is why the overwhelming majority of deaths have been officers.

Not that strange. It’s a reservist force. Majority of their forces are made up of essentially part timers. Full timers provide the expertise, experience and know how. It’s not like they have the luxury of a three month ramp up to deployment at Fort Polk before they go into a combat zone.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:07 am to
Live map
Looks like Israel is splitting up Gaza piece by piece.
Looks like they are concentrating on squeezing out any resistance in the northern areas.
Seems like all those Palestinians could just move over to Iran and all these problems will be solved. shite, Israel would probably buy their bus tickets for them.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 4:06 pm to
If Israel bulldozed all of Gaza into the sea, it would turn it into something useful in terms of fish habitat.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:48 pm to
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the main component is that Colonel Douglas MacGregor stating that it occurred.


Well if Col MacGregor said it then it must be true.

Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:27 am to
IMO well done Frontline documentary: Failure at the Fence. Explores how Hamas was able to breach the Iron Wall.

YouTube
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:14 am to
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor

Dude is a loon
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