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Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:25 am to
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:25 am to
Send em
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:02 am to
Over 24 hours with a post. Time to drop the sticky?
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:03 am to
Mannie Fabian X account

The IDF’s 252nd Reserve Division has completed its operations against the Hamas terror group in the Beit Hanoun area of northern Gaza, and handed over responsibility of the region to the Gaza Division, indicating the military has firm control of that sector.

In a statement, the IDF says troops of the 252nd Division, including infantry, tanks, combat engineers and artillery, defeated Hamas’s Beit Hanoun battalion while capturing all of their main compounds and strongholds.

The IDF says the Beit Hanoun battalion used schools and public buildings as bases, in which troops discovered tunnels and weapons.

The 252nd Division killed “many terrorists” during the operations in Beit Hanoun, and destroyed their weapons depots, rocket launchers, underground command centers, and “significant” tunnels,” the IDF says.

“The underground infrastructure of Hamas in the Beit Hanoun area was significantly damaged, the shafts were dealt with, along with the main tunnel routes,” the statement says.

The division’s Harel Brigade along with special forces uncovered the Beit Hanoun battalion’s main tunnel in the area, which according to the IDF was located deep within the civilian infrastructure, between the Beit Hanoun city hall, a mosque, a soccer court, and a daycare center.

Amid the battles in Beit Hanoun, the IDF says the Harel Brigade spotted two Hamas gunmen exiting a tunnel and joining two more operatives in a car, who began to drive toward the troops. The forces called in an airstrike, killing the four Hamas members, the IDF adds.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
#NOVA The documentary movie has finally been released by Israel who had originally decided to not show it because of the pain it inflicted on the families of the victims. However after widespread requests by those who watched the movie and the requests by those that this needed to made available to the world, Israel relinquished and now the film is available for view.

The film created entirely of material that was filmed and recorded in real time at the NOVA festival near Kibbutz Ra'im.

Watch as the terror unfolds minute by minute. The film is only in Hebrew and in Arabic they have not yet translated it into English or Spanish.

NOVA -- The Full Movie (NSFW)

The Mossad: The NOVA Video has also been published on X (NSFW)

This video link should probably be moved to the OP because its that important that everyone watch this film.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:42 pm to
Everyone absolutely should watch that. And share it to every fricking person who is questioning Israel’s response.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:55 pm to
This makes my blood boil. I can’t for the life of me understand how anyone can even question Israel’s response much less support Palestine.

What sucks is I’ve seen people I respected making these posts in support of palestine/Hamas and I feel like I can’t look at them the same. I’m not someone that gets overly involved in politics but I question the heart of anyone that knows even a small bit of what happened on 10/7 and can support that filth.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:18 pm to
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What sucks is I’ve seen people I respected making these posts in support of palestine/Hamas and I feel like I can’t look at them the same. I’m not someone that gets overly involved in politics but I question the heart of anyone that knows even a small bit of what happened on 10/7 and can support that filth.


It isn’t politics. Or at least it shouldn’t be politics….but you do have a political faction screaming Free Palestine. Supporters of terrorists are terrorists.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:28 pm to
Wonder how all these liberal brainwashed punks that are protesting with idiotic signs like Queers for Palestine would feel if they went to a concert and it was attacked by a bunch of terrorists?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:29 pm to
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Everyone absolutely should watch that. And share it to every fricking person who is questioning Israel’s response.
I watched about half today. Will watch again in English

This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 8:20 am
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:50 pm to
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ETA: Jewish girls can be sexy as shite


Why would you troll in response to that video?
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:57 pm to
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What sucks is I’ve seen people I respected making these posts in support of palestine/Hamas and I feel like I can’t look at them the same. I’m not someone that gets overly involved in politics but I question the heart of anyone that knows even a small bit of what happened on 10/7 and can support that filth.


People have been taught to discount the miracle that is western, liberal society. But for the oppressors, everyone is a peace loving, equal rights society . . . is just stupidly false.

Nearly every middle eastern society is a barbaric, backwards place (their clearly superior approach to petty street crime notwithstanding). Israel is unique in its neighborhood, and the difference is a superior culture.

But you can’t say one culture is superior to another anymore, and you certainly can’t say culture is why one group succeeds where another group fails.

So we all have to pretend societies where half the population are hidden away behind abayas aren’t fundamentally worse than societies like Israel where everyone can participate freely in the economy and public square.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:23 am to
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you certainly can’t say culture is why one group succeeds where another group fails.


Why not? I think culture is absolutely the most important factor in the success or failure of any endeavor.

Business
Family
Interpersonal relationships
Political systems
Societies

Culture is everything
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:08 am to
X

1. Israel will shift to local production of munitions to minimize reliance on American supplies, @ynetalerts reports; Defense Ministry plan will focus on Air Force munitions & raw materials currently acquired abroad, mostly from US,

2. Israel wishes to end dependence on US-made munitions, especially as Ukraine war boosts demand for arms; local defense industry to ramp up production, receive billions of dollars in new contracts; Israel also expects to export more armaments to global clients

Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:43 am to
X

“Breaking: Director of Kamal Adwan Hospital in Gaza admits he is a Senior Hamas commander (Brigadier General) and explains how Hamas made the Hospital into a terror base.“
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:21 pm to
Open Source Intel on X

"IDF announced the completion of the take over of Jabalia - hundreds of terrorists killed, and about 500 were arrested: "We dismantled the operational capabilities of the Northern Gaza Division" @N12chat"
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:19 pm to
quote:


1. Israel will shift to local production of munitions to minimize reliance on American supplies, @ynetalerts reports; Defense Ministry plan will focus on Air Force munitions & raw materials currently acquired abroad, mostly from US,

2. Israel wishes to end dependence on US-made munitions, especially as Ukraine war boosts demand for arms; local defense industry to ramp up production, receive billions of dollars in new contracts; Israel also expects to export more armaments to global clients


It's be great if they ended their dependence on American funding as well.

What's the difference between us giving them $20B a year plus ammunition and us giving them $30B a year to just make their own?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:35 pm to
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What's the difference between us giving them $20B a year plus ammunition and us giving them $30B a year to just make their own?


You're not in management are you?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

What's the difference between us giving them $20B a year plus ammunition and us giving them $30B a year to just make their own?



They're called Bottlenecks
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

It's be great if they ended their dependence on American funding as well.


Same should be said for Ukraine. The tax paying citizen gives money and weapons to Ukraine but Ukraine can’t have the weapons to actually frick Russia at home. Israel is currently bringing the fight to a strip of land full of terrorist with or without our money or support, even though Israel wants both. Nobody gives a damn about Gaza so Israel can and will do whatever, unlike Ukraine. Ukraine is propped up by the US but the US has Ukraines hands tied.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:26 pm to
sounds like american soldiers/marines are dying in the Mid-east war

Tucker on X


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