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re: LSU running 4-3 Style Defense
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:57 am to BasilBogomil
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:57 am to BasilBogomil
That's the thing. He shouldn't come on the field and I'm all for it unless it's obvious 3rd down passing.
He was lost as a true LB at the beginning of the season. He's also not a true pass rusher because of his size, which last season was his strength. If you look back at my post history, you will see that I defended him playing MLB because that's the position best suited for him, but of course our fan base is always smarter than our head coach. If you really go back and watch film of this season and just focus on Perkins, the tape isn't impressive. He's fast, and his best ability is chasing people. The problem is, that isn't a position. If that's all he can do, than switch him to DE and tell him to gain 30 lbs in the off-season, or switch him to DB and tell him to lose the weight he gained this off-season. Because those are the only two spots on the field that being good at chasing is good at.
He was lost as a true LB at the beginning of the season. He's also not a true pass rusher because of his size, which last season was his strength. If you look back at my post history, you will see that I defended him playing MLB because that's the position best suited for him, but of course our fan base is always smarter than our head coach. If you really go back and watch film of this season and just focus on Perkins, the tape isn't impressive. He's fast, and his best ability is chasing people. The problem is, that isn't a position. If that's all he can do, than switch him to DE and tell him to gain 30 lbs in the off-season, or switch him to DB and tell him to lose the weight he gained this off-season. Because those are the only two spots on the field that being good at chasing is good at.
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:59 am to LSU12223
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I hate this. Huge fan of the 3-4, but atleast we are making some sort of adjustment
To me, this move is more about getting poor performers off of the field.
I'll bet we still see three down linemen in most situations due to Missouri's offense.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:12 am to Pauvetibete
Pauvetibete, are we going to see Perkins flip flop back to MLB and put him in positions to make mistakes in coverage or getting off of run blocks?
I think you are right for his size, he can't be a DE in a 4-3, but he also doesn't know the MLB position and hasn't learned how to be a MLB.
In the FSU game, he was purely the spy and was absolutely ineffective. In the 4-3 I think they blitz him on passing plays to help out the secondary. I just worry about him in a zone coverage and communication. Maybe they stick with man, send him on passing plays and pickup the TE or RB on shorter passing downs.
It will be interesting to watch this weekend.
I think you are right for his size, he can't be a DE in a 4-3, but he also doesn't know the MLB position and hasn't learned how to be a MLB.
In the FSU game, he was purely the spy and was absolutely ineffective. In the 4-3 I think they blitz him on passing plays to help out the secondary. I just worry about him in a zone coverage and communication. Maybe they stick with man, send him on passing plays and pickup the TE or RB on shorter passing downs.
It will be interesting to watch this weekend.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:14 am to Pauvetibete
If he can only “see ball, get ball” then he needs to be a 3rd down specialist. But I’m hoping a scheme change helps him become more versatile. We shall see.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:21 am to jp4lsu
It's a double edged sword. Do you risk losing games to allow him to grow at MLB, or do you appease fans who are just going to keep repeating the same old "WHY ARENT WE BLITZING PERKINS" when he obviously is.
If you truly want him to grow, than you switch him to MLB and deal with the growing pains. If you want to win, then you sit him. Teams have seen the film and know what to do to counter his speed. And if you only rush 3 down lineman and Perkins and our DTs don't eat up double teams, that leaves Perkins 1v1 with a player who is 70-80 lbs bigger than he is. Now, if he comes through untouched, it can lead to big plays, but that hasn't been the case.
If you truly want him to grow, than you switch him to MLB and deal with the growing pains. If you want to win, then you sit him. Teams have seen the film and know what to do to counter his speed. And if you only rush 3 down lineman and Perkins and our DTs don't eat up double teams, that leaves Perkins 1v1 with a player who is 70-80 lbs bigger than he is. Now, if he comes through untouched, it can lead to big plays, but that hasn't been the case.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:24 am to r0cky1
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Where does perk go?
Guessing he plays the Sam on the 4-3 alignment. When they go Nickle I would assume they take out Swinson and play him there on the edge. In Dime they take out Jones and its Maason, Wingo, Womack, and Perk as the 4 rushers. Penn at the MLB. With Yates, Sage, Burns, Sam, Harris, and Zy at the DBs.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:25 am to jp4lsu
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I think you are right for his size, he can't be a DE in a 4-3, but he also doesn't know the MLB position and hasn't learned how to be a MLB.
To be fair, he's not big enough to be a MLB right now, either.
He's safety size, 1/3 of the way through his 2nd year
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:51 am to mdomingue
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Changing how those seven guys line up won't fix that.
Not automatically but it will give them better matchups and allow for more penetration.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:12 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Still have to play gap sound defense. We aren’t gap sound. I’m nervous the change is going to hinder that a little bit.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:14 am to lsutiger2011
Good to see that Coach Jenkins is introducing House to modern football
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:22 am to Pauvetibete
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Do our fans just get absolutely tanked while watching the games and then come back to the forums and spit out the most ignorant takes?
Well, yes. That's what the Rant is for. Football IQ not required.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:23 am to LSU12223
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Still have to play gap sound defense. We aren’t gap sound. I’m nervous the change is going to hinder that a little bit.
When you have 3 down lineman, every lineman is responsible for 2 gaps. With 4 down lineman they are responsible for a single gap.
It'll help make gap assignments more simple for the DL so they can attack their gap without having to worry as much about giving up another gap.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:23 am to tigersbh
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I’m hoping one of the ends is Perkins.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:00 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Not automatically but it will give them better matchups and allow for more penetration.
It can, and it can also funnel things into the right gaps but it won't be as effective and will still be exploitable if they do not do their job properly.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:03 am to mdomingue
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will still be exploitable if they do not do their job properly.
No defense will work if guys don’t do their jobs no matter what you run.
I think the idea here is get guys in their natural positions and hope it helps them play to their strengths.
4-3 or 3-4 doesn’t really affect the secondary. They still have to figure out how to communicate the calls better have everyone play their assignments.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:14 am to lsutiger2011
Heard this as well, coach Pete already making his mark!
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:30 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Absolutely. Play to the strengths of the players. Don't force them into a situation where they are not able to perform to their best ability because the coach believes in a certain scheme.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:44 am to lsutiger2011
A 4-2-5 is the only base defense worth playing anymore.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:52 am to Gus007
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? mil DLC
Had one in spring practice, he left for the NFL.
Had an interim for a while.
Hired a new coach in May.
He had a medical emergency in August and stepped away from the team for his health.
Another interim for fall practice.
Now Pete Jenkins brought in to help out.
4 different coaches since March.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:59 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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4-3 or 3-4 doesn’t really affect the secondary.
True, but better D-Line play can offset some weaknesses in the secondary and make it look better.
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They still have to figure out how to communicate the calls better have everyone play their assignments.
Yup.
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