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re: PPSA Program Summary after completion

Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:22 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:22 am to
awww, thats only one i havent bought.
Posted by HamCandy
Team Meat
Member since Dec 2008
894 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:23 am to
I still consider myself a noob in the gym, but i've done the following:

Grasshopper - Great intro to get your body back into after a break, first time I did this I saw great results but it was also the first time I was hitting the free weights

Oak Tree - This was a tough workout to finish, but I believe showed the best visual results

Pool Season 1 - Great plan, highly recommend. If you eat right you will come out of this looking good.

Pool Season 2 - Same as PS1, but I liked PS1 better

Hyper Trophy - I found this to be very difficult to complete. I've tried running this 3 times and I'm fizzled out week 4 or life gets in the way and I feel like I wouldn't come close to getting week 4 complete. Improved on my squat, front squat and deadlift running this plan.


Arm Farm - In the middle of running this first time and its great. Time is my biggest issue with this plan.

Posted by Effthatnoise
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2011
367 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:16 pm to
Is getting Oak Tree Remastered worth it? I have Oak Tree already but I love what he did with Benchamin Franklin 2 which got me thinking about the Remastered version for Oak Tree. If anyone has run both would be awesome to hear your thoughts!
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1017 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:54 am to
I see no one left a review for Let's Get Peachy.

This one was probably more intense then everyone realized when we did it as a program party. I jot down my times and for me it was a minimum of 90 min (with most around 105-110). Excluding warm-ups, its 7-8 lifts a day, 4 days a week. Each day has deadlift or squat plus an upper body press (bench, OH, incline, shoulder) and a SS of a curl variation and a push motion.

There were also several things I'd never seen before that took some getting used to RFESS, reverse lunges, lateral lunges, BB Hip Thrusts, etc).

Really was a good program and it forced me into moves I haven't done before. With that said, I doubt I do it again. I need something closer to the 1 hr range/day. I prefer a plan with 3-4 lifts/day (Jacked Up Joker, Pool Season 1 and 2, Benchamin 1 and 2, original Oak Tree, etc).
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3047 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 7:01 am to
I dunno what the original looks like, but I did days 1 and 2 over the weekend and it is a pretty brutal workout. I'm coming off Pool Season and it's much more intense, I can tell it's gonna thicken me up. Day 2 curls superset left me unable to bend my arms.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 7:03 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31464 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 7:28 am to
remastered is more volume for sure. more sets and more exercises.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11927 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:33 am to
quote:

remastered is more volume for sure. more sets and more exercises.


I’ve been rotating pool season 1 and 2 since April, and have been seeing good results. I’ve been debating adding oak tree remastered into the rotation….how does remastered compare to ps 1 and 2? I assume it’s more volume, but would it be good to add or should I look at one of the other programs ?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31464 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:34 am to
about the same amount of volume as PS2, little more than 1.

before choosing oak tree...what is your goals? how long you got to workout? want to stick to 4 days a week?
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 10:34 am
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11927 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

about the same amount of volume as PS2, little more than 1.

before choosing oak tree...what is your goals? how long you got to workout? want to stick to 4 days a week?



I'm prefer to stick to lifting 4 days a week, because of other training I'm doing.

I've got two ultra marathons later this year (a 100k in November and a 50k in December). The summer heat has killed my training for these, and while I should finish the 100k, I'm gonna hurt the next day.

I'm also training for the 2024 Spartan Death Race in June. This is a 72ish hour endurance event that will require strength, endurance, and mental toughness. It's designed so that you fail, and has about a 10% finisher rate. Training for this is pretty difficult because you don't know what to expect (i think last year it started with 5000 burpees).

For the last three or four months I've been training two to three times a day. Weights in the morning (been rotating between PS 1 and 2 each month), a short HITT workout 3 days at lunch (routine below), and then running and/or rucking in the evening.

HITT workout (2 rounds for time--3 min rest between rounds)
Round 1:
50 burpees
100 pushups
50 bodyweight squats
25 crunches
best time: 6min 19 sec

Round 2:
25 burpees
50 pushups
25 bodyweight squats
25 crunches
best time: 3min 25 sec

I've actually just changed that to make it a little harder, and have replaced burpees with "devils burpees" (only 1 round for now, will add second next month)

During the heat waves I haven't allowed myself to run more 5 miles a session. As it cools off milage will increase, and I'll be doing some rucking with heavy weight 2-3 times a week (rucking will replace running those days).

I know that's a lot, but I've been getting stronger and maintaining weight (actually put on about 5 pounds last month). I do a pretty good job with listening to my body, and if i need a rest day i make sure to take it.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2727 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:26 pm to
Looking for 2 recs

One that is 4 days and full body that can be done in 1 hour.

One that is 3 days and is back/shoulders/legs focused that can be done in 1 hour.
Posted by jose
Houma
Member since Feb 2009
28659 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

One that is 4 days and full body that can be done in 1 hour.


Arm Farm is my favorite for this. It’s arms and shoulders everyday and either chest or legs with that. Great workouts.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31464 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:27 pm to
grasshopper, 21 to party, silverback would all work

but man hole shite thats a lot of work. maybe just stick with whats working for now. jesus makes my stomach churn thinking about lifting while training for an ultra, well really just thinking and talking about an ultra makes me want to puke



frick all that!!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31464 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

One that is 4 days and full body that can be done in 1 hour.



arm farm, silverback remastered, 21 to party, filling out the hoodie(would be close to an hour), jacked up joker, pool season 1 would be close

quote:

One that is 3 days and is back/shoulders/legs focused that can be done in 1 hour.


the seesaw and benchamin franklin 2 but its more chest focused hence the name.

Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2727 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

the seesaw and benchamin franklin 2 but its more chest focused hence the name.


Thanks. The 3 day one is for my wife and she's much more worried about her back/shoulders/and legs than chest so seesaw would probably be the way to go.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2134 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:56 pm to
Seesaw is great, just be prepared to constantly change plates on the bar. It’s even more challenging if you workout with partners.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
7257 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:52 am to
quote:

Is getting Oak Tree Remastered worth it?


Finished oak tree remaster a couple weeks ago. Best results I’ve seen so far, put on 6 lbs of muscle in 5 weeks

Running pump city right now which is a standard push/pull/legs rotation, so a change up from the full body. Going pretty good, I really like the AMRAP sets. the full days committed to
Legs are hell on my knees though. I have started to prefer the full body method of just 1 or 2 legs workouts every other day.

Planning on doing Filling out the hoodie 1 and 2 for October and November. Seen a lot of praise for those on here
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 2:53 am
Posted by PetroAg
Member since Jun 2013
1273 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 6:58 am to
How are y’all tracking your PPSA programs? I thought there would be an associated phone app given the name, but I couldn’t find one or mention of one on the website. Are y’all just using a general workout tracker and building your own template based on the plan?
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3047 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 7:07 am to
I"m two days into oak tree and it is legit. I'm sore as hell everywhere and went straight into this one from pool season. I'm pumped to see how much I put on. I haven't been meeting my protein quota so getting that up with this program is getting me pumped.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11927 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 7:44 am to
quote:

rasshopper, 21 to party, silverback would all work

but man hole shite thats a lot of work. maybe just stick with whats working for now. jesus makes my stomach churn thinking about lifting while training for an ultra, well really just thinking and talking about an ultra makes me want to puke



frick all that!!



Thanks! Gonna look into the three you mentioned and either pick one or stick with what i'm doing for now.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31464 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 7:48 am to
quote:


How are y’all tracking your PPSA programs? I thought there would be an associated phone app given the name, but I couldn’t find one or mention of one on the website. Are y’all just using a general workout tracker and building your own template based on the plan?


we print them out and just write everything in

what i do when running ppsa is print couple months out and get them bound at the fedex store

i write my real max and then a training max on the 1st page of the 1st program

then after i finish that month and everythign went well, i simply add 5lbs to upper, 10 to lower and write that on the 1st page of program #2. so on and so fourth

if i have to reset, i simply go back 3 months and start there

its a traditional 531 progression of trying to get 5 months of progression minimum and then when you reset go back 3 months and start again.
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