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PPSA Program Summary after completion

Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
474 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:15 am
Can we get some of the guys who have finished new programs to write up a summary of the program. I did one on Arm Farm a year or so ago. 777s has done a few. There are some new programs out and would like to hear results from those who did them.

I know we are all gearing up for Squatober again but would like to see some breakdowns of some of the newer programs
Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
474 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:20 am to
As an example, here was my Arm farm summary from a year or so ago

Completed Arm farm last week. Really enjoyed the program.
Here's my notes and comments

Every Day of the week has the same exercises throughout the program. So Week 1 Monday will be same as week 4 Monday in regards to exercises but the rep structure and percentages change dramatically.

Bench every M & Th
Squat Tues
DL Friday

All exercises are super-setted with something else. It's almost like doing a HIIT workout. Heart rate explodes up and then rest and repeat.

Major lifts start each day
Structure of each work out is Major lift with SS then a Secondary major lift with SS then you get to Farm Flex section.

Farm Flex is 3 complementary exercises SS. This is just total and complete destruction. You finish this section completely done.

Cardio Section is then two exercises that complement something that was done earlier SS together.

Parting shots - If you want traditional three big lifts with rest time then this is not your workout. While it has the big 3 lifts, to me if you want more of a HIIT feel then this is it. It's hard, you need to watch your ego on the weights you use because the reps are really high in the Farm Flex.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

some breakdowns of some of the newer programs


any particular one? i have all of them except the newest. i havent done one since june do to my schedule and my damn knee. but i can give you a rundown of any of them.
Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
474 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:54 pm to

quote:

any particular one?


Benchamen Franklin II
Big Back Billy
Pool Season II
SuperSet


I can the see the summaries on the PPSA website. just want some insight from guys who have done them and what they got out of it.


Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3040 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:42 pm to
I am just ran Arm Farm and Pool Season 1 back to back. If I did 5 reps with the most weight I could when I started vs. now my numbers are up 16% on bench and 25% on deadlift and 25% squats. Dumbbell pullovers are up almost 40% but I never really did those before I started the program. One arm dumbbell rows up 25%. I'm the same weight as when I started but almost 2" off my waist. Note that I do cardio on 2 of the 3 off days. Visually, very nice gains on my back, arms, and shoulders but I didn't measure before I started to give actual size gains.

Edit: I know those aren't new programs, but I wanted to brag.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 2:47 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

I am just ran Arm Farm and Pool Season 1 back to back. If I did 5 reps with the most weight I could when I started vs. now my numbers are up 16% on bench and 25% on deadlift and 25% squats. Dumbbell pullovers are up almost 40% but I never really did those before I started the program. One arm dumbbell rows up 25%. I'm the same weight as when I started but almost 2" off my waist. Note that I do cardio on 2 of the 3 off days. Visually, very nice gains on my back, arms, and shoulders but I didn't measure before I started to give actual size gains.

Edit: I know those aren't new programs, but I wanted to brag.




thats bad arse results dude

Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
474 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:28 pm to


great stuff
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
647 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:06 pm to
I’ve done a few

Grasshopper
Pool Season 1 & 2
Arm Farm

Currently doing Brace Yourself…squatober prep. Really liking this one. Of course some form of squats in every workout but total body also. The volume and reps/sets have been spot on for my liking. Not as many SS with high reps as some of the others.

I’ve never done Squatober but look forward to it now.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4169 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:50 pm to
I completed Grasshopper and Big Back Billy. Both were great but big back Billy killed my knees for some reason. I’m sure it was my form but above both knees were killing me at the end of the workout.

Would anyone know why I would have pain above both knees from the squats? The pain has since gone but I’d like to address it if it’s due to poor form.

Thanks
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103065 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:51 pm to
If you got injured you probably did the program correctly.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35115 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:55 pm to
I hope Aaron never finds out where you live.
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
444 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:12 pm to
I would love to know measurements before and after. I have never done a PPSA program, currently doing Grasshopper, but I measured upper and lower body before I started because I'm curious to see what if any change there will be. The primary reason I recorded measurements was to add it to macrofactor because I'm trying to lose fat, but it will be interesting to see what the changes are, specifically to my arms because I've never trained things like curls and skullcrushers and anything with a dumbbell, etc. I'd be interested in some of these programs if they produced good results for hypertrophy if I ever chose to make that my focus.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

If you got injured you probably did the program correctly.



why do you always say things like this like ppsa has some unusual exercises or loading schemes

do you blame jim wendler for getting hurt on 531?

its basic barbell lifts. most of the people getting hurt have an issue with form, just tendonitis or they have a weakness somewhere that is causing an imbalance.

the other thing is people tend to not listen to aaron, joe defranco and many others who highly suggest that everyone, but especially those over 30, take a month or two off from the barbell every 6 months atleast. better a 5 on, 1 off approach.

but there is absolutely nothing inherently dangerous about ppsa or 531. both have more volume than a basic program but thats because they are not beginner programming. even grasshopper isnt. now 531 bps is but others arent.

btw you were a lot cooler when you were doing 531 and pursing strength goals...trust me, ask you wife. just something to thank about...might wanna try it again.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:08 am to
quote:

I would love to know measurements before and after. I have never done a PPSA program, currently doing Grasshopper, but I measured upper and lower body before I started because I'm curious to see what if any change there will be. The primary reason I recorded measurements was to add it to macrofactor because I'm trying to lose fat, but it will be interesting to see what the changes are, specifically to my arms because I've never trained things like curls and skullcrushers and anything with a dumbbell, etc. I'd be interested in some of these programs if they produced good results for hypertrophy if I ever chose to make that my focus.


alot of them produce great hypertrophy results. arm farm is great for arms. pool season 1 is great for shoulders

stacked and jacked is awesome for hypertrophy but the hardest overall program

strongville and periodic table are really good for hypertrophy and have lots of volume and intensity. both are hard AF

hypertrophy is really good too and is more middle ground as far as difficulty.
Posted by LSUtiger19
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2015
143 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:07 pm to
is it necessary to do the super sets as a super set? I'd like to start pool season, but i am seeing lifts like barbell bench super setted with barbell row. With how busy my gym is, i don't see how i'll be able to lock down a bench then find another rack to do the rows. I figure as long as you get the lifts in, it doesn't really matter if it's a super set or not.
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
444 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 2:40 am to
It's necessary in so much that the training effect of doing a superset is going to be different from not doing a superset. However, if you find you can't complete some section of a training session that has a superset programmed in....just change it and do what you can.

But it's absolutely not the same thing to break the superset up, as far as training effect goes.

I completely understand your rationale though, commercial gyms can be busy and a lot of compromises have to be made. That's maybe 1 reason I love being a night owl and having a 24 hour access gym.(I work out in my garage now, so no longer an issue) Usually you're alone to do as you please, but if you can't do that maybe find another slower time to workout or just modify the superset to be something that allows you to complete it. Does your gym have those fixed-weight straight short barbells in a rack that you could use for rows? Could you use an available EZ curl bar instead, or dumbbells(probably the easiest option)? Kettlebell? I guess all of that depends on how much you're rowing.
Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
1938 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:34 am to
So far I have done the following in the past couple years.

AF, BF, BF2, BYIC, DS, FH2, MW, PS, PS2, PC, and TU.

Out of those, the most intense is TU. It's 3 days per week but nearly 2 hours each day.

MW would be next in intensity b/c you are doing 2 big lifts per day.

BF1 and BF2 were fun to do b/c I really saw my bench numbers shoot up.

I'm currently into BYIC, and so far I really like the routine of hitting it every other day and doing at least one lower body every workout.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I'm currently into BYIC, and so far I really like the routine of hitting it every other day and doing at least one lower body every workout.


ok i got all the other acronyms, but what is BYIC?
Posted by Petey8
Member since Jul 2009
608 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:02 am to
quote:

what is BYIC


Brace Yourself...It's Coming

I started this one mid August and really like it. 3 days of legs should help the transition to 5 days of legs.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 11:04 am
Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
1938 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Brace Yourself...It's Coming


Same thing I tell my wife twice a year.
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