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Liberty Safes is going the way of Bud Light on Twitter. Update: Liberty has responded
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:29 am
It all started with this post from the Hodge Twins:
And as often happens in the social media age, people started attacking Liberty. Feeling the pressure, Liberty posted this response
Twitter
Which begs the question: why does Liberty have backdoor access to customer's safes?
Is that normal in the safe industry?
Was Liberty legally required to comply with the FBI?
ETA: Liberty has issued another press release after facing backlash for releasing backdoor access codes without a court order
quote:Twitter
Last week, a friend of ours was raided by the feds over J6, his name is Nathan Hughes and he’s from Fayetteville, Arkansas. Nate was raided by the FBI and arrested at gun point. His girlfriend (who just had a miscarriage) was held at gun point and put in handcuffs. The FBI turned off his security cameras, unplugged his internet, and flipped his house upside down in a search. The feds called the manufacturer of his Liberty Gun Safe and got the passcode to get into it too. All for protesting at the Capitol over 2 1/2 years ago.
And as often happens in the social media age, people started attacking Liberty. Feeling the pressure, Liberty posted this response
Which begs the question: why does Liberty have backdoor access to customer's safes?
Is that normal in the safe industry?
Was Liberty legally required to comply with the FBI?
ETA: Liberty has issued another press release after facing backlash for releasing backdoor access codes without a court order
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 9:40 am
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:30 am to boxcarbarney
As usual the corporate response only makes it worse
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:31 am to boxcarbarney
sounds like Liberty Safes will be out of business soon with this news.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:32 am to boxcarbarney
Damn
And Apple wouldnt even help unlock the San Bernadino shooter's iPhone
And Apple wouldnt even help unlock the San Bernadino shooter's iPhone
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:33 am to boxcarbarney
Technology is a double edged sword. These days, you can be located via your phone or automobile almost anywhere.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:33 am to boxcarbarney
Meh, the Feds are getting in that safe with or without cooperation from Liberty.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:34 am to Cosmo
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As usual the corporate response only makes it worse
They were getting destroyed in the comments to the post, so they have turned off replies.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:34 am to boxcarbarney
saw that trending last night.
They shouldn't have done it to begin with, but doing it to an associate of a decently known pair of political activists was a bigger mistake.
They shouldn't have done it to begin with, but doing it to an associate of a decently known pair of political activists was a bigger mistake.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:34 am to SloaneRanger
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Meh, the Feds are getting in that safe with or without cooperation from Liberty.
Yep, either give them the code or they are going to bust it open. They were getting in that safe no matter what.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:35 am to SloaneRanger
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Meh, the Feds are getting in that safe with or without cooperation from Liberty.
Make the feds work for it
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:35 am to boxcarbarney
Option A - Liberty Safe doesn’t provide master code. FEDs still open safe but destroy it in process.
Option B - Liberty Safe provides code under warrant. FEDs open safe and keep it intact and valuable for owner.
Am I way off?
Option B - Liberty Safe provides code under warrant. FEDs open safe and keep it intact and valuable for owner.
Am I way off?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:35 am to SloaneRanger
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the Feds are getting in that safe with or without cooperation from Liberty.
Correct so it should’ve been done 100% without the help of Liberty.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:37 am to boxcarbarney
Im guessing he had one with the electronic keypad which features a
I guess now we know to only buy our safes second hand, scratch off the serial number so the manufacturer can't tell which one it is, and to get one without electronic passkey entry, go with the metal turn handle.
quote:
Reset button to set the lock back to factory default
I guess now we know to only buy our safes second hand, scratch off the serial number so the manufacturer can't tell which one it is, and to get one without electronic passkey entry, go with the metal turn handle.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:37 am to SloaneRanger
quote:
the Feds are getting in that safe with or without cooperation from Liberty.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:38 am to Cosmo
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Make the feds work for it
At least, make them issue a warrant TO Liberty Safe.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:38 am to RedHawk
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Meh, the Feds are getting in that safe with or without cooperation from Liberty.
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Yep, either give them the code or they are going to bust it open. They were getting in that safe no matter what.
Kind of besides the point, though. Its not that the FBI would have gained access eventually, its that a company that branded itself as a liberty loving organization so quickly capitulated to an increasingly authoritarian law enforcement.
If Liberty is keeping backdoor access codes, what happens if those codes are leaked? The whole point of the safe is to keep people from accessing it.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:39 am to schexyoung
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Option A - Liberty Safe doesn’t provide master code. FEDs still open safe but destroy it in process. Option B - Liberty Safe provides code under warrant. FEDs open safe and keep it intact and valuable for owner. Am I way off?
I think the safe owner needs make that decision not the manufacturer
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:39 am to boxcarbarney
If you have nothing to hide..
What if there's child porn in there? You saying we shouldn't give police a backdoor to protect our children?
What if there's child porn in there? You saying we shouldn't give police a backdoor to protect our children?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:39 am to weadjust
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I think the safe owner needs make that decision not the manufacturer
I doubt the feds even asked the safe owner for the code.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:40 am to schexyoung
OPTION B is bullshite. Let the government destroy it. It’s beyond comprehension why people are still giving this corrupt fricking government more power.
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