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re: Emery situation is a classic example of what's wrong with college football

Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
4049 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:08 pm to
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That’s the root cause of the problem. Football needs semipro/farm teams like baseball. That way you get players that want to go to college. Baseball does it? why not football?



It’s fine if you want this. And it’s not a terrible idea
Just don’t bitch about the quality of play in CFB if the NFL ever did this.
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:12 pm to
So a kid has the athletic ability to play football on the collegiate level, gets a full ride to college and a potential opportunity to play in the NFL and yet he’s a victim?

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don't have the educational foundation to succeed in college.


That’s a bs excuse. You don’t have to be smart to get a college degree. Some of the biggest morons I’ve ever met are college graduates. It’s not like they’re forcing these kids into getting engineering degrees while they’re there.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted by renola7
Member since Aug 2019
71 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:29 pm to
Dexter Manley got a certificate for reading/writing or a GED after he retired from the NFL !!
Posted by Kajuntiger121110
Member since Aug 2020
630 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:17 pm to
To be honest, education these days is overrated. Men with trade skills make this country run. Yes some of those skills take some what of an education tonattaon the skills but regardless, education is overrated
Posted by bluewatersailor
Member since Oct 2018
266 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:30 pm to
Down vote the comment saying this is what's wrong w college football. These guys have the best of everything and personal counselors telling them over and over what's right and what's wrong. At some point it becomes the person's responsibility.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1146 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:33 pm to
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Men with trade skills make this country run.
They are essential workers, but they HELP make this country run along with many highly-educated individuals.
I hope if you need heart surgery that your surgeon will have had an education. I am glad mine did or I would have died 21 years ago. I hope the aeronautical engineer who designed the plane you next fly on had an education too. I won't "belabor" the point.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:44 pm to
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Given the combination of assistance, easy course work, monitoring, and tutoring that's available to football players

You forgot cheating. Football players have been getting people to take their tests for them for decades. It’s highly effective and nobody gives a shite
Posted by Hud0326
Member since Dec 2019
354 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:53 pm to
If he is really that good he will complete five years of college with minimum body wear and make some real money in the NFL. I wish him nothing but the best this year and going forward, but sometimes life sucks and he has the talent and opportunity to make a tremendous amount of money in the NFL.

This is not to say the NCAA is without fault…they should be shut down
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4660 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 6:11 am to
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why not football?

$$$$$$ < That's why. Unfortunate but true.
Posted by Nativecoonass
Luling Louisiana
Member since Dec 2022
38 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 6:45 am to
Emery came from the best school districts in Louisiana..
Posted by TigerMonkey
Beach
Member since Jul 2005
7251 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:04 am to
I can empathize with him him to a certain degree, as I am ADHD to the max and traditional schooling was never the best for me. So I get it.

That being said he put himself there and what’s on the line is absolutely worth the sacrifices he needs to make today to succeed.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 7:06 am
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14225 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:17 am to
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Football needs semipro/farm teams like baseball. That way you get players that want to go to college. Baseball does it? why not football?


I don’t think people would like the college football product if high schoolers who didn’t want to go to college could go to a quality semi-pro league.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12038 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:27 am to
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He dug his own hole and O's system of complete player independence meant nobody was around to put Emery in line.


Blame everyone except the misguided individual. Emery has had every opportunity to succeed.
How many would love to have his skill and opportunity.
It wasn't Coach O nor Coach BK.
I guess it was the Coaches fault
for Guice and C Collins misadventures as well.

Were the coaches responsible for Williams success. He was a walk on.
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1820 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:30 am to
I supervised kids that had graduated from H.S. that couldn't read. What's wrong with our high schools?
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4991 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:44 am to
This isn't on the universities. They give them all the help they need, some of which maybe questionable.

This comes down to the parents and the public schools that condone failing grades as long as they excel in their sport. You start flunking these guys in middle school and high school I bet they learn real quick how to do HW and study.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13056 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:32 am to
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If that was an option, then things could be different. The NFL could fund one, but it would cost them, and I doubt you would have owners in line to spend money that way.


They would absolutely find one if they didn’t get it for free with the current college system.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13056 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:35 am to
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If he has all this athletic ability then he was free to go take his chances in the NFL


Wrong. NFL can not draft right out of high school (because they made an agreement with the NCAA because it’s so profitable for colleges and the NFL basically gets a free minor league). Shut down college football all together and see how quickly the NFL changes it’s tune of drafting out of high school.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13056 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:38 am to
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You misspelled work ethic.


Yeah because it doesn’t take any work at all to be a top athlete in a sport. I’m sure you are the pinnacle of athleticism (as long as you too get to self report your weight and height)
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18158 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:49 am to
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Emery situation is a classic example of what's wrong with college football
so you'd prefer Emery didn't have a chance in college at all?

Maybe some guys with a weak academic record, with the right help from tutors at college, can get through. So they'd get to play college football and possibly get a degree, and even if not, they'd have a couple years of attending college behind them.

This is a bad thing???
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9048 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:49 am to
Whats the solution? To not give him a chance to further his playing career and earn a college degree?

Leaving him in poverty doesn't seem like a better solution than giving him a chance to figure it out in college.
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