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re: Monthly mortgage payment based on a median existing home is now at a record $2,322

Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:33 pm to
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and most people aren't. They are getting some venti 3500 calorie drink and bagel.


And you know this because you go and buy starbucks everyday.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:33 pm to
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Now compare your story to someone who chooses a job that has little room for advancement. Low skill low training jobs.
But these jobs don’t exist for everyone. That’s the whole point. Not everyone can be a Doctor, Lawyer, CPA or engineer. And even in the business world the people in power aren’t retiring. They keep working for longer and longer, which just delays the younger generations salary progression.

We need store managers, teachers, truckers, etc. To quote one of my favorite movies, “The world needs ditch diggers too.” It’s them that are being left behind.

I’m not saying the younger generation doesn’t have some issues. We do. But just to say we need to suck it up is just so cold sounding. It isn’t as easy to pull yourself up by your boot straps anymore.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:34 pm to
It's like people believe mortgage rates were always below 4% in the past when the range for decades was between 5% to 10%. It's not like 7%+ has never happened before nor can you purchase at 1980's era prices.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15320 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:35 pm to
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And you know this because you go and buy starbucks everyday.



No, only on the weekends. However, you can see them walking around drinking the shite.

Most popular starbucks drinks

Again, this really is relevant to the thread. Carry on.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5073 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:35 pm to
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I'm having to seriously start considering setting money aside for my kids that is solely for help with housing


This is only the second generation who on the whole are going to inherit real money from their parents.

An old boss of mine used to tell me I should think differently about money than most people because we aren't used to that as a thing but it's a game changer having a "safety net" in inheritance.



I do think he's right, however I followed traditional paths and am grateful to be on the housing market even if I have outgrown the house it's better to be on the ladder than not
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
36842 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:35 pm to
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....and most people aren't. They are getting some venti 3500 calorie drink and bagel.



most people aren't going to starbucks everyday or even weekly.


This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4697 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:35 pm to
Somebody has to be the trashman. Are they just supposed to work two jobs?
Posted by CocoPecan
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:36 pm to
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No one thinks they are owed anything, but this notion that abstaining from starbucks and bringing your own lunch to work offsets the grand canyon sized gap between how far costs have risen versus wages over the last 20 year is utter nonsense.


So sensible! It’s so easy (and fun) to make fun of the generations stuck in this awful predicament. Rightfully so in some cases. But decreasing wasteful spending can’t nearly offset the gap between costs and wages.

Some people eat out when they should make rice and beans, have kids wearing $70 Nikes when they should be wearing Pro-wings from Payless like back in the day.

Some are even buying $250 balloon arches for kid parties bc they see it on IG. But, these financial morons are also in a way crappier position than the ones before them. They could read “The Millionaire Nextdoor”, apply all the concepts to being frugal and still have difficulty buying a decent house and having much of anything left over. Especially in LA with insurance.

There’s also a lot of making fun of excessive student loans people take out, but I bet there’d also be a lot of bitching about the shortage of healthcare workers etc., if all the students wised up.

To fix the problems, we kind of all have to admit there’s a problem.
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2017 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:38 pm to
Thanks to the absolute worst president we’ve ever had. FJB
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Probably buying $10 bottles of water too.


I buy my water at Starbucks. It costs what it cost
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Thanks to the absolute worst president we’ve ever had. FJB


He certainly hasn't helped, but this situation has been worsening over the course of the last 4 presidents.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:51 pm to
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While I agree with this in general, basic cookie cutter starter homes costing over 300K for 1500Sqft is absurd.


And that's not in an obscene market like San Fran

That's in pretty median level cost of living cities
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Old people and Roger

“Stop complaining. Everyone has gone through this”

While completely ignoring all data in thread



yup
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34533 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:53 pm to
I’m sure it has been discussed, but what is left out of this is that families that buy these homes are two income families, and there are a shitload of cheaper houses on the market. Even in Huntsville, which is booming, there are plenty of 3 BR houses less than 200k that are move in ready. They just aren’t in neighborhoods where people want to live.

As big as a problem as housing prices are, the problem is exacerbated by a shrinking zone of interest for buyers. That’s something that should be addressed that is overlooked with these generational income inequality debates.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 1:54 pm
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
3948 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:56 pm to
That is the most underwhelming 6 million dollar house I have ever seen
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10884 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:58 pm to
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As big as a problem as housing prices are, the problem is exacerbated by a shrinking zone of interest for buyers. That’s something that should be addressed that is overlooked with these generational income inequality debates.
That’s a extremely valid point.

The decline of America’s cities via drugs and crime have really shrunk the what is deemed to be “acceptable” living areas. Wonderful neighborhoods 30 years ago that people don’t dare buy in now.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1686 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:58 pm to
Same. Something needs to be done to protect homeowners. No homeowner should lose their home due to insurance increases. I see it happening.
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4766 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:59 pm to
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hich is booming, there are plenty of 3 BR houses less than 200k that are move in ready. They just aren’t in neighborhoods where people want to live.

As big as a problem as housing prices are, the problem is exacerbated by a shrinking zone of interest for buyers.


Biggest thing to these housing prices. Good neighborhoods that are relatively new post 2000 are expensive. You can buy the old 1970s house in an old neighborhood but you get either people 65+ or renters. There seems to be no inbetween.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8319 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:01 pm to
Will be keeping my 1200 mortgage




Wife sent me a house that we probably could have swung 3 years ago. Estimated mortgage was $2600. Hard no
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3639 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:17 pm to
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And even in the business world the people in power aren’t retiring. They keep working for longer and longer, which just delays the younger generations salary progression.


What I’ve seen lately is them still getting paid in advisory roles after they “retire”.

It’s asinine. Most of them either own their homes outright or have very low mortgages but won’t get out of the way for people who are trying to provide a home and life for a young family.

Lots of these boomers should be finding young families and giving them money every month. Instead they’ll die with hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank after a period of lavish vacations, all while bemoaning the downfall of the country and being perpetually perplexed at youth drug use, suicide, etc.
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