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re: Monthly mortgage payment based on a median existing home is now at a record $2,322

Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:20 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
120030 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:20 am to
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When Democrats say things, you better listen and you better believe there agenda is exactly what they say.



It's pretty amazing to me that they don't even have to lie and deceive anymore. They say that are getting rid of the middle class and conservatives, and they just do it now.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12836 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:20 am to
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Within my budget, which is where most of these people have gone wrong.


Yea people are stretching themselves way too thin. Everybody wants their first house to be the big ole house that everyone else envies. Nobody wants the starter home anymore because it won’t be cool for social media.

Interest rates were close to 20% in the 80s, but for some reason we’re approaching Armageddon now while they’re at 7-8% and this generation is “in such a bad spot” lol
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:20 am to
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The young folks these days are getting fricked over and you, Rodger, and a few other posters are just too willfully ignorant to see it.




all I've got to go by is watching how my daughter and her friends are coping(all Millenials by dob,) and they seem to be kicking arse
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112931 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:20 am to
What does that go for, $140k?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71695 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:20 am to
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This is absolutely insane. Most people aren't actually doing this, right?


Probably not, as there's zero shot in hell banks are going forward with that.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167886 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:21 am to
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what do you sell?





Well, I am not telling you that. I don't want competition.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22373 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:22 am to
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My daughter and SO both got STEM degrees, both kept their scholarships through school and got out with zero debt. Both enjoyed college, Greek organizations and kept part time gigs to help with spending money. They make damn near 200k, both saving roughly 20%. They are in ten times the better position I was in in my mid-late twenties. They are looking at homes, and could go out and get a 500k home, they are looking at 180k homes. This thing is easily manageable, nothing has been taken away from the young people. Just do what the hell you are supposed to do and make good decisions and you are living a very successful life and retiring young.


Yep… if you have dual income in the top 20% of Americans, graduate college with no debt, and have no kids… even you can afford a $180k house!
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 9:23 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51521 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:22 am to
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Everybody wants their first house to be the big ole house that everyone else envies. Nobody wants the starter home anymore because it won’t be cool for social media.

Interest rates were close to 20% in the 80s, but for some reason we’re approaching Armageddon now while they’re at 7-8% and this generation is “in such a bad spot” lol


Same stupid takes every time this thread comes up.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:22 am to
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Young person needs a new car be a their high school junker finally gave out. Any decent used car is $25k

Younger person has to move out of their parents house. They don’t have enough money saved so they have to rent. Rent is stupid expensive so they can’t save enough money to put together a large down payment, so they put together 3% on a cookie cutter DSLD start home that is now selling for $320K.

That doesn’t sound like keeping up with the Jones’s. That’s just trying to live a regular life.



I'm young(ish). I get it. How many of those young people are on $1,500 phones that they replace regularly? Or taking vacations to places they can't afford?

For every person who is putting everything they have in trying to survive, there are multiples living outside of their means.
Posted by Sneauxghost
Member since Sep 2020
1107 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:22 am to
Until people understand why and who caused this it will continue the trend.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29843 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:22 am to
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another generation has it harder from a macro level

I have no issue admitting those younger than me have it worse.
They voted for it. Let them feel the pain of their choices.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112931 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:23 am to
$180k? That wouldn’t get you a starter home in a shitty Houston suburb.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96734 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:23 am to
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all I've got to go by is watching how my daughter and her friends are coping(all Millenials by dob,) and they seem to be kicking arse
There were people that kicked fricking arse in the Great Depression too

It’s just unreal you have zero concept how to grasp this simple concept that just because an overall group has a worse position, that doesn’t mean it’s impossible at the individual level to still succeed
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:24 am to
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What does that go for, $140k?



Probably 425 if I had to guess. I also didn't buy it when I was 22. I was well into my 30's
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22373 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:24 am to
Someone should send him the definition of ‘anecdotal’
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54193 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:25 am to
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They make damn near 200k


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This thing is easily manageable
It is certainly manageable with a household income of $200k. That isn’t the norm for most in their 20’s or early 30’s.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:25 am to
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$180k? That wouldn’t get you a starter home in a shitty Houston suburb.




I found a 155K townhouse for sale on zillow as the first result.
Posted by Nelson Biederman IV
New York, NY
Member since Apr 2014
531 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:25 am to
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The wife and I started a new business on the side and just started selling last month on Amazon and Walmart and it's growing every day. Kicking myself for not doing it sooner. Our first full month we cleared around $3500 and worked on it for about 5-6 hours per week.


I’ve been thinking about doing this but am just kind of unsure of how to start. Did you follow any specific plan or anything? I mean I know there’s lots of step by step material out there but just curious.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65117 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:26 am to
My wife works in the real estate division of a law office. The things she tells me she sees all the time is just crazy. People are signing up for mortgages of $400 and even $500K with 7% interest rates and their monthly gross income is maybe $10K at best. How are these people living? You have to figure they have things like car payments (which are also astronomical now), credit cards, utilities, insurance, cable/streaming, plus day to day stuff like groceries and all the other stuff that just comes with living life. I guess these people will live “house poor” as long as they can. But I don’t see how they can keep it up for 30 years. And what about retirement? I guess they’re planning on working until lunchtime of the day of their funeral.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:26 am to
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It’s just unreal you have zero concept how to grasp this simple concept that just because an overall group has a worse position, that doesn’t mean it’s impossible at the individual level to still succeed




so this really isn't a discussion, it's "if you don't see it my way you're old and a dumbass," have a good day, I'm out
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