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Companies with hybrid/remote work force growing quicker than full-time office companies
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:32 pm
Because we need another WfH/remote debate
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Companies with flexible work policies are growing more quickly than those that require people to be in the office full-time, according to The Flex Index,
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Specifically, in the last year, companies—regardless of their size—that are fully flexible added jobs at more than twice the rate of companies that were full-time in office.
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Even companies that offer some level of flexibility, whether it be two or three days working from home, have grown more quickly than those that require full-time in-office.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:34 pm to CunningLinguist
Maybe the cause and effect is reversed - fast growing companies may need remote/hybrid workers because it is the only way they can get enough help.
The fact that they use remote/hybrid workers is probably not the cause of the company's growth.
The fact that they use remote/hybrid workers is probably not the cause of the company's growth.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:40 pm to chinhoyang
Yep. The seal has been broken. You can work in Excel and PowerPoint from your phone these days if needed, anywhere on the planet.
How would you like to move to Memphis?
Where would I need to live?
Mississippi.
Companies that invested millions or billions in real estate in places where they can't hire entry level people because they have to commute 2 hours each way to afford housing seems like a losing proposition.
How would you like to move to Memphis?
Where would I need to live?
Mississippi.
Companies that invested millions or billions in real estate in places where they can't hire entry level people because they have to commute 2 hours each way to afford housing seems like a losing proposition.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:44 pm to chinhoyang
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Maybe the cause and effect is reversed - fast growing companies may need remote/hybrid workers because it is the only way they can get enough help. The fact that they use remote/hybrid workers is probably not the cause of the company's growth.
Essentially yes.
In my experience, younger companies are growing more quickly than mature, established companies.
Younger companies are staffed by younger employees on average.
Younger employees on average were never coaxed into believing commuting and being tied down to a specific desk/city was the optimal way to work.
Therefore, most younger companies need to have remote work policies to attract younger talent to work their jobs.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:44 pm to CunningLinguist
Anyone think there will be a reverse trend at some point? A push to start going back in to work?
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:45 pm to CunningLinguist
it's over, the grey haired balding rich dudes aren't getting their workers back in the office
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:46 pm to sta4ever
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Anyone think there will be a reverse trend at some point? A push to start going back in to work?
There already is.
Of course WFH jobs are growing quicker...they are generally more desirable. The problem is, once those companies realize the issues with WFH and start requiring them to come in to work, the employees will quit and move to another WFH opportunity. And then this cycle repeats itself until the idea corrects itself.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:49 pm to CocomoLSU
I can’t see it correcting very fast.
It also depends on the industry on if work from home full time works or not.
It also depends on the industry on if work from home full time works or not.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:50 pm to Magnus
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it's over, the grey haired balding rich dudes aren't getting their workers back in the office
My old company was steadfastly against work from home, even though dear leader was rarely in the office himself.
But when he did show up, he made a point to note empty seats at 5pm and rant about it. (without knowing that people arrive at 6am to avoid traffic due to office being in shittiest traffic city in the country). Can't imagine why people have developed a distaste for living like that?
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:51 pm to CunningLinguist
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Companies with flexible work policies are growing more quickly than those that require people to be in the office full-time, according to The Flex Index,
Suck on that Boomer OTers.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:52 pm to CunningLinguist
Companies are trying to reduce the carbon footprint.
I worked for a company in Houston that was driven by the carbon footprint reduction idea.
Funny thing is we didnt have a hypbrid schedule, we drove into work every single day during covid and beyond.
The world we live in.
I worked for a company in Houston that was driven by the carbon footprint reduction idea.
Funny thing is we didnt have a hypbrid schedule, we drove into work every single day during covid and beyond.
The world we live in.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:12 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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Suck on that Boomer OTers.
WTF does being a Boomer have to do w any of this?
Hell, it's the Boomers on my team that don't ever want to come in. The young kids WANT to come to the office at least occasionally so they can mingle and make a name for themselves.
I have two "Boomers" on my team who've told me repeatedly since all this started that if they have to come back to the office, they will quit. And you know what, I can't let that happen as they have over (20) years experience and can't afford to lose them.
So quit making assumptions about people.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:23 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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Suck on that Boomer OTers.
I'm a Boomer and been WFH since 2005; in fact I've declined jobs that were in-office or hybrid roles.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:58 pm to CunningLinguist
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This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:01 pm to XanderCrews
quote:Companies have had nearly 3 yrs to renegotiate those leases and either buy down the remaining term of the lease or get out of them altogether. They shouldn't have been stuck in long term leases for office space anyway.
It is one of the only rights workers have had in long time to accrue some of their own irreplaceable time back.
Good workers can demand to work from home and will have the highest skilled labor to sell. Corps sitting on shitty leases is not my concern. And if the company fails from having impaired finances due to governments response to a cold then so be it. Also nothing I can control and im done sacrificing my family/time for an upside down office lease.
The change is coming (everywhere) you can accept it or fight it. Like the middle class living conditions in Louisiana will never get any better. You can accept that reality or or not.
The going trend is WFH or a hybrid model, keeps the employee happy. If the employer can't offer that option, then the employee can easily find a company that does.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:14 pm to CunningLinguist
There are people who can work from home and people who can’t. It’s been my experience that usually the people who can’t work from home also hate the fact that some people can, so they ruin it for everyone. I admit I work better in the office, but I don’t care where my coworkers are as long as they get the job done.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:30 pm to chinhoyang
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Maybe the cause and effect is reversed - fast growing companies may need remote/hybrid workers because it is the only way they can get enough help.
bingo
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:32 pm to CunningLinguist
Where's that idiot that keeps trying to say all the WFH losers are gonna be forced back into the office?
-Sent from my couch
-Sent from my couch
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:34 pm to CunningLinguist
I abstain from voicing my opinion one way or the other on this debate (partially because I don’t think there’s one correct answer), but I always laugh when the “work from office” proponents cite slacking off as a concern with people working remotely.
I have never seen as much screwing (sometimes literally) off as I have in the office of a multinational corporation. Ping pong tournaments, 3 hour Starbucks runs, naps in the bathroom, sitting around gossiping in a conference room for an hour, multi-hour planning sessions spread over 2-3 weeks for the holiday party etc.
ETA: just remembered we had several fat women who brought their running shoes to the office and would power walk a lap on all 4 floors during their “lunch break”. This was at a major credit card processor in the Midwest, for those who care.
I have never seen as much screwing (sometimes literally) off as I have in the office of a multinational corporation. Ping pong tournaments, 3 hour Starbucks runs, naps in the bathroom, sitting around gossiping in a conference room for an hour, multi-hour planning sessions spread over 2-3 weeks for the holiday party etc.
ETA: just remembered we had several fat women who brought their running shoes to the office and would power walk a lap on all 4 floors during their “lunch break”. This was at a major credit card processor in the Midwest, for those who care.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:45 pm to Death Before Disco
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There are people who can work from home and people who can’t. It’s been my experience that usually the people who can’t work from home also hate the fact that some people can, so they ruin it for everyone. I admit I work better in the office, but I don’t care where my coworkers are as long as they get the job done.
I hate working from home. Its more of if i work from home im at the house all day everyday. that shite is boring, and i want someone to do this for 30 years and get back to me.
I mean even when people retire they cant just sit at home all day, they find other shite to do or go back to work.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 4:46 pm
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