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re: Ocean currents are collapsing due to climate change.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:39 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:39 am to Corinthians420
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They are claiming the arctic melt off is raising the temperature more than the gulf stream weakening is cooling it.
So… the “Arctic melt off” is going to both warm and cool Great Britain. At the same time. Depending on what subject you are focused on.
And what “Arctic melt off”. The highly esteemed and respected, Nobel prize winning, jet setting, SUV traveling, vacation home having, heated pool needing, climate guru Al Gore said the Arctic ice would be gone by now. Is ice still there?
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Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:43 am to CleverUserName
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And what “Arctic melt off”. The highly esteemed and respected, Nobel prize winning, jet setting, SUV traveling, vacation home having, heated pool needing, climate guru Al Gore said the Arctic ice would be gone by now
I'd guess either a politician or a writer trying to make a headline, rather than a scientist. Scientific predictions are often boring and uncertain, so the headlines normally come from people that don't understand the science they are trying to use to generate interest.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:47 am to LSUSkip
Strangely an ice age in Europe could cause the land to sink
Glacial isostasy
But I doubt any climate change supporters even know what the frick that means
Glacial isostasy
But I doubt any climate change supporters even know what the frick that means
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 10:48 am
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:53 am to Rebel
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So wouldn’t an ice age cause sea levels to drop?
quote:When you ADD ice to your drink, you're also adding additional material that wasn't in the cup before. Is earth importing ice from another planet to add to the existing volume of water in the oceans?
If you add ice to your drink, does it go up? Or down?
Ice ends up either floating on top of the liquid water in the ocean or ice stays frozen on land. Either way, more ice means a lower volume of liquid water in the ocean, which means lower sea level.
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:59 am to Corinthians420
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I'd guess either a politician or a writer trying to make a headline, rather than a scientist. Scientific predictions are often boring and uncertain, so the headlines normally come from people that don't understand the science they are trying to use to generate interest.
Yet… we hand the politicians and non scientific people their Nobel prizes and appoint them “Climate Czars”.
Same people who single handily pollute more than 100s of other people.
And zero scientists or media, that is so involved in human made climate change, call them out on it.
Which absolutely blows my mind since it is so much of an emergency.
Did you know this years World Economic Forum, filled with climate alarmists, had 1,040 private planes fly in and out? And they had to have helicopters ferry them back and forth from the airport to the location?
And these folks are worried about the “climate emergency”?
Now comes the question I can never get answered….. if their actions show they are not worried about it… why should I listen to them?
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:03 am to Tiger Prawn
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Either way, more ice means a lower volume of liquid water in the ocean, which means lower sea level.
As a general rule yes. The reason the sea level may rise on the east coast of the US if the current weakens is because there is currently water trapped in the he middle.
As water travels in a circular motion in the large currents that comprise gyres, Coriolis effects and Ekman transport direct water to the center of the gyre. When this happens, water piles up above normal sea level. Thus, sea level tends to be higher in the center of ocean basins.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:07 am to CleverUserName
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Now comes the question I can never get answered….. if their actions show they are not worried about it… why should I listen to them?
You shouldn't.
I only study the effects of humans on the climate to learn more about our world and satisfy my own curiosity. I'm not gonna change how I live or stop eating steaks. I pledge not to build any oil tanker ships I guess.
There's nothing any of us can do to change the climate. Humans will have to adapt to challenges they face in the future as our ancestors did in the past.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:07 am to Arkapigdiesel
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where the middle class and below will be whittled down to nubs.
It’s the communist way.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:12 am to Corinthians420
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The sea level rise would be due to the current weakening so the gyre affect would lessen,
Ok, now I think you're just making shite up
If I take a glass of water and swirl it around, the water gets higher on the glass, and lower when it slows. Not that what you said makes any sense anyway.This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:14 am to Chucktown_Badger
As water travels in a circular motion in the large currents that comprise gyres, Coriolis effects and Ekman transport direct water to the center of the gyre. When this happens, water piles up above normal sea level. Thus, sea level tends to be higher in the center of ocean basins.
This is all provable lmao. Right now the water in the Atlantic ocean basins is higher than the water on the east coast of the USA due to the current
You introduced centrifical force to the glass, use a straw instead
This is all provable lmao. Right now the water in the Atlantic ocean basins is higher than the water on the east coast of the USA due to the current
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If I take a glass of water and swirl it around, the water gets higher on the glass, and lower when it slows
You introduced centrifical force to the glass, use a straw instead
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:28 am to LPLGTiger
At least Ice ages are super chill.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:33 am to LPLGTiger
Fascinating, almost as if the planet earth has a built in buffer system to cool itself down if it gets too hot. It is a historical fact that Ice Ages have occurred, even before humans had the supposed capacity to impact. George Carlin was right.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:46 am to Corinthians420
quote:Interesting
As water travels in a circular motion in the large currents that comprise gyres, Coriolis effects and Ekman transport direct water to the center of the gyre. When this happens, water piles up above normal sea level. Thus, sea level tends to be higher in the center of ocean basins.
This is all provable lmao. Right now the water in the Atlantic ocean basins is higher than the water on the east coast of the USA due to the current
How big of a height difference is it?
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:56 am to Tiger Prawn
LINK
It appears to be around 90cm (35 inches in freedom units) difference. About -50cm on the coast and then +90cm out off the coast
It appears to be around 90cm (35 inches in freedom units) difference. About -50cm on the coast and then +90cm out off the coast
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 11:58 am
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:05 pm to Corinthians420
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As water travels in a circular motion in the large currents that comprise gyres, Coriolis effects and Ekman transport direct water to the center of the gyre. When this happens, water piles up above normal sea level. Thus, sea level tends to be higher in the center of ocean basins.
Your link says otherwise. The difference is driven by colder water being more dense than warmer water.
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Average sea level in the Gulf Stream is unusually high because the warmer waters are less dense. The Gulf Stream also draws water away from the Atlantic Coast, making local sea level unusually low. Future changes in ocean currents are likely to affect regional changes in sea level.
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:08 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Your link says otherwise. The difference is driven by colder water being more dense than warmer water.
Hell you could've read one more sentence.
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Average sea level in the Gulf Stream is unusually high because the warmer waters are less dense. The Gulf Stream also draws water away from the Atlantic Coast, making local sea level unusually low.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:44 pm to Corinthians420
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No, but if the current weakens so does the gyre effect.
What do you think creates the gyre effect, otherwise n
known as current? Magic? Taxes? Green Energy?
From NOAA:
Tides. If you live near the coast or have ever visited the beach, you are probably aware of tides. But did you know that tides are really big waves that move through the ocean in response to the forces exerted by the Moon and the Sun? Tides start in the ocean and move towards the coast, where they appear as the regular rise and fall of the sea surface. How much the water level changes over the day varies depending on where you are and what day it is.
Currents. Currents put motion in the ocean! Tides involve water moving up and down; currents involve the movement of water back and forth. Currents are driven by several factors. Tides are one of these. Wind, the shape of the land, and even water temperature are other facts that drive currents.
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:51 pm to LPLGTiger
So basically it's normal earth cycles that have happened over and over for billions of years?
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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doubt any climate change supporters even know what the frick that means
They'll figure it out when the media tells them what it means.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:35 pm to LPLGTiger
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it could bring about an Ice age
Good I'm tired of this hot arse weather all the time..
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