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re: PSA: if you think you might need a gas generator at any point in the future…

Posted on 7/24/23 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2005 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 11:27 am to
the easy fix for most of these companies will be to add a Cat. converter

how much added cost is that going to be? who knows
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 11:28 am to
You can pry my generator from my cold, dead hands...
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14685 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 11:33 am to
I love (hate) how this type of issue is brought up after there is little that we can do about it.

People need to be more involved in the public comments portion of rule making. It is my understanding that they are required by law to receive, review, and respond to ALL comments.

The best time for people to fight back on a proposed rule was when it is first published. This public comment period ended on June 20, 2023. If they were flooded with comments against the rule, then they may reconsider. Instead, after a quick review of the few comments that have been submitted, it appears that the public and some state environmental quality departments are for the rule and most of the industry against it.

After reading into the issue. I agree with requiring manufacturers to install automatic shutoffs when high/dangerous levels of carbon monoxide are detected. I think this practice is already becoming industry standard for manufacturers. The emissions standards part of the rule is excessive.

eta: Generac published and submitted a report showing that 80% of generator related CO deaths could have been avoided with an automatic shutoff.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 11:45 am
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 11:53 am to
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If they were flooded with comments against the rule, then they may reconsider.


Oh you sweet summer child.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 11:54 am
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8537 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 11:59 am to
They are going to do lawn mowers next.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6791 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:06 pm to
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eta: Generac published and submitted a report showing that 80% of generator related CO deaths could have been avoided with an automatic shutoff.


100% could have been prevented if the user had followed the guidelines. 70 deaths per year. Similar to the number of people who die from bee stings.
Posted by sostan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
1066 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:17 pm to
Our government, executive politicians and legislators SUCK! They F up everything they touch, and they touch far too much. Let them hear about how shitty they are every time you have the opportunity.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 12:23 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37958 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:20 pm to
I read this yesterday on Rantingly or Revolver somewhere and, when I did, it made me wonder why? What is the point to all of this? This is complete and total destruction.

This is being orchestrated and motivated by the NWO, Soros, China, Davos, etc., et al.

They're trying to get us to revolt, cause a civil war, send in the UN ... that's the only explaination. A Bridge too Far. Crossing the line. Probing us for our breaking point with plans of beating us into submission.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31761 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:22 pm to
just got me a 60kw liquid cooled installed.....gonna be sitting in the pool when the next big one hits chillen
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24243 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

the tri-fuel generators at Costco were running for $700 or $750 last week


I bought 2 of the 4,000 watt inverter generators that they sell at Costco for $800 (Firman, same as the tri fuel). The manufacturer was selling refurbs on eBay for $330. I also got a firman 2100 watt inverter generator for $200. So for almost the price of 1 4k watt generator, I bought 10k watts worth.

They're not on sale anymore. But I think you can still get a 4k watt for $450. They also have a 2 year warranty with all state.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

if you think you might need a gas generator at any point in the future…
you must have missed the last two hurricane seasons on tOT when every Baw within 200 miles of a storm went and purchased a new generator and chainsaw and sent the bill to the federal government to get their share of the cheese.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24753 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

just got me a 60kw liquid cooled installed.....gonna be sitting in the pool when the next big one hits chillen


Have fun that gas bill off.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
2468 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:35 pm to
So now I will have to get a solar powered generator?
Posted by TigerPaul
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
2950 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:35 pm to
I wish someone would make the argument about the number of lives the generators save by keeping homes cool. A huge number of old and poor people die from heat (dehydration) after these storms.

It's time a Republican calls this proposal racist and classist. Poor people's blood is on their hands!

That seems to be a winning argument to this utter nonsense.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:36 pm to
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And 90% of those deaths are often from dumbasses that don't know how to use a portable generator. I.e., they run them inside their home, or in a poorly ventilated space, rather than outside the home.


One of the last storms, I remember a story about a man parking his generator outside house/apartment but near his bedroom window. The generator exhaust was towards the house and he had the window open. Finished him off at night apparently.

Make certain gen exhaust is facing away from the house.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31511 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:38 pm to
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It's to make people as miserable and uncomfortable as possible.


Once everyone is all electric, they have full control.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31511 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:40 pm to
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The best time for people to fight back on a proposed rule was when it is first published. This public comment period ended on June 20, 2023. If they were flooded with comments against the rule, then they may reconsider. Instead, after a quick review of the few comments that have been submitted, it appears that the public and some state environmental quality departments are for the rule and most of the industry against it.


They are ignoring a SCOTUS ruling. They don't care.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31761 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Have fun that gas bill off.



during laura was running about 2500 per month. worth it to me.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8984 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

A proposed Consumer Product Safety Commission rule limits the amount of carbon monoxide a product can emit, with the commission admitting that 95 percent of portable gas generators on the market cannot comply with its new standard


Time for Harbor Freight to pad those pockets.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31413 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 1:19 pm to
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is it for personal safety or more regulation for the big bad boogey man that is “global warming” ?


For everything progressive and liberal scum are trying to regulate from existence, I want to see a comparison of how much CO2 they emit nationally annually, vs how much CO2 was put into the atmosphere from the Canadian wildfires.

Would be curious to see the analysis of NYC wood-fired pizza ovens to Canadian wildfires.
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