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Does anyone believe the latest political charge against Trump is valid?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:26 pm
Presidential Records Act supersedes all else. This is the most asinine case since the last one and is going to fall apart immediately.
You'd think at some point there'd be consequence for overt political weaponization, but we're stuck with it over and over.
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“Amy Berman Jackson, the judge presiding on that case, said a couple of very important things,” said Farrell. “That the president had an absolute, unreviewable right to take any records or documents that he wants when he leaves office. “
“No one can come back and second guess or double think or ask questions about what the president elects to take with him,” Farrell continued.
In her ruling, Jackson wrote that “the President enjoys unconstrained authority to make decisions regarding the disposal of documents: ‘[a]lthough the President must notify the Archivist before disposing of records . . . neither the Archivist nor Congress has the authority to veto the President’s disposal decision.’”
You'd think at some point there'd be consequence for overt political weaponization, but we're stuck with it over and over.
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:27 pm to Thundercles
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Presidential Records Act supersedes all else
This is certainly a meme, but I don't know if it's true.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:28 pm to Thundercles
constitutional lawyers have already explained how inept the doj and their office is, and how this should be thrown out by a judge, asap.
everything is covered by presidential privileges.
everything is covered by presidential privileges.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:28 pm to Thundercles
SlowFlo and Hank for sure.
CelticDog
BamaATL
CelticDog
BamaATL
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:35 pm to Thundercles
Alan Dershowitz (who I tend to trust) said the majority of it can be swept aside but there are a couple of trouble spots.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:37 pm to Paddyshack
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SlowFlo and Hank for sure.
CelticDog
BamaATL
hey don't leave out lakeboy He/She might get his/her feelings hurt
they all feel that
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:43 pm to TrueTiger
I hadn't read that until now, but interesting.
Would be interesting to see them try to convict the former president and possible candidate of espionage just ahead of an election based on this which could be totally fabricated by Trump. Fabricated in the sense that he did declassify them and was just bragging as he is wont to do.
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"The stuff about moving boxes, that's all covered by the Presidential Records Act, probably not criminal at all," he said. "The one page that's of concern, obviously, if it's true, is the tape recording that was made of a conversation ex-President Trump had with a writer who was writing a book about Meadows, in which he said, 'look, I have these documents. They're secret. I could have declassified them when I was president, but I didn't.' And then either shows it to him or shows him that he has it."
Would be interesting to see them try to convict the former president and possible candidate of espionage just ahead of an election based on this which could be totally fabricated by Trump. Fabricated in the sense that he did declassify them and was just bragging as he is wont to do.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:46 pm to Thundercles
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Does anyone believe the latest political charge against Trump is valid?
Strictly based on the Left's track record over the last 25 years of lying about every f'n thing that matters, I vote it's not valid.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:48 pm to Thundercles
Anyone who takes pleasure with Trump being charged also takes great pleasure with objects inserted deep into their anal cavity
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:49 pm to Thundercles
I don't even care if it is. Selective law enforcement is just as corrupt as false charges.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:50 pm to Thundercles
No its political
Merrick Garand has a personal grudge vs Trump as well
Merrick Garand has a personal grudge vs Trump as well
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:55 pm to Thundercles
Ohh plenty of the Ronbots on this board are all about these charges. They’re rooting the DOJ on
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:57 pm to Thundercles
In the practice of criminal law, one of the tip top, prevailing factors that drive the government’s approach to a given case is the record or history of misdeeds of the defendant. That’s a universally held belief and approach.
Based on their own standards and practices as described above, I award them and their allegations/indictment neither credibility, reliability nor verity whatsoever. Zero. Zip. Zilch. In terms of a comparable defendant who would receive the same woeful marks, it would be similar to a person having 10 prior felony convictions, ranging from robbing old ladies to grand larceny of a chariy.
In other words, they’re bandits who shouldn’t be trusted with a single thing.
Based on their own standards and practices as described above, I award them and their allegations/indictment neither credibility, reliability nor verity whatsoever. Zero. Zip. Zilch. In terms of a comparable defendant who would receive the same woeful marks, it would be similar to a person having 10 prior felony convictions, ranging from robbing old ladies to grand larceny of a chariy.
In other words, they’re bandits who shouldn’t be trusted with a single thing.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 5:01 pm to jbdawgs03
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Ohh plenty of the Ronbots on this board are all about these charges. They’re rooting the DOJ on
Two posts above yours, mensa. Right now I plan on voting for DeSantis.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 5:10 pm to Thundercles
Are the allegations in the indictment true? IDK for sure but the evidence is laid out in extreme detail that would lead me to believe they are. Will Trump go to jail? Probably not, but he shouldn't be president again. Careless handling of critical secrets that would absolutely put us at risk if the wrong person got a hold of them.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 5:14 pm to Nono
Well, I do take PRIDE in my support of the rule of law.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 5:17 pm to lsunatchamp
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Careless handling of critical secrets that would absolutely put us at risk if the wrong person got a hold of them
do you have a verifiable instance of that?
is the audio of his 'saying' that all you have?
have YOU heard the actual audio or just someone's 'transcription' of the audio?
what do you think he showed - and to whom - and he a 'wrong person' - and what was the risk of the example you cite??
Surely you must have a lot of detailed information to conclude =
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he shouldn't be president again
you do have that data - right?????????
Posted on 6/10/23 at 5:27 pm to TrueTiger
Alan Dershowitz has ties to Epstein. He is corrupt as can be
Posted on 6/10/23 at 5:28 pm to lsunatchamp
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Careless handling of critical secrets that would absolutely put us at risk if the wrong person got a hold of them.
so you think trumps potato salad recipe is going to endanger this country if the wrong person got a hold of them?
just trying to see where you stand on this, because right now, my story is as credible as your is, in fact, mine is more credible because the FBI are proven liars who have brought false charges against trump with zero evidence 4 separate times already including an organized sedition operation with hillary to illegally frame him for russian collusion
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 6/10/23 at 5:30 pm to keakar
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so you think trumps potato salad recipe is going to endanger this country if the wrong person got a hold of them
hmmmm - you may be on to something there - I thought it was the breakfast menu - much more risky.
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