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Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:06 am to Tiger985
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Can people only be represented by someone that matches their race? What if an African American votes for a white candidate? Is that legitimate?
It’s more about the political party and /or those who support their interests than race. So they won’t have a problem with a white candidate who fits the mold.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:08 am to MFn GIMP
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It's absurd to think that only black people can be represented by a black person.
They can vote a white liberal that lives in their district if they want.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 10:09 am
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:08 am to teke184
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They voted in a Vietnamese Republican in New Orleans at one point.
That was a pure fluke of the Katrina diaspora.
It was pretty great, though.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:09 am to Tiger985
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Can people only be represented by someone that matches their race?
What if an African American votes for a white candidate?
Is that legitimate?
The Court's ruling is likely to affect the identity of the newly-drawn district boundaries by political party, not by the racial identification of the winning candidate.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:16 am to Y.A. Tittle
Memphis also voted in a Jewish guy to replace a black House member who failed in a run for the Senate (Harold Ford IIRC).
It happens but it is extremely rare.
It happens but it is extremely rare.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:16 am to Y.A. Tittle
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They voted in a Vietnamese Republican in New Orleans
That was of great historical significance, as Joseph Cao furnished the only Republican vote in favor of Obamacare in a 2010 vote on the legislation. This enabled Nancy Pelosi to pound her gavel following passage of the legislation, and bellow out, "it's BIPARTISAN"!
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:30 am to BigJim
Read through the Thomas dissent. The majority opinion is absolutely unhinged. What got into Kavanaugh?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:31 am to Y.A. Tittle
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They voted in a Vietnamese Republican in New Orleans at one point.
That was a pure fluke of the Katrina diaspora.
It was pretty great, though.
Obama and Dollar Bill Jefferson were in a pissing match. He was allowed to win so Obama can make a point for those that go against him.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:35 am to c on z
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It’s more about the political party and /or those who support their interests than race. So they won’t have a problem with a white candidate who fits the mold.
This isn't true at all. Black Democrats in the South have historically been huge proponents of majority-minority districts, which ensures black representation but dilutes the overall performance of Democrats in the Deep South. SC has 7 congressional seats and 46 counties, yet 14 of those counties are gerrymandered into Jim Clyburn's district so it can be majority black.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:47 am to Tiger985
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African American votes for a white candidate?
The only way this happens is if the AA is (R), and whitey is a (D)
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:19 am to AggieHank86
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We select members of Congress based upon geographic Districts. If a minority population is evenly-distributed throughout the State, they should not be GUARANTEED even one representative.
If I am understanding correctly(at times I don't..lol)they are wanting to change the physical lines of the districts in order to include more black majority districts. I doubt there is any fair way to do this without either side not complaining of bias.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:22 am to BigJim
This is a ridiculous ruling as it looks only at the surface level of an issue. If we're stating there have to be racial minority districts, what's the limiting factor? Does a minority need to be 25% of the total population? What about 10%? 5%? .00003%? What makes any specific percentage stand out as being the goal?
It also makes no consideration for disbursement patterns, which often means forced gerrymandering (which is wrong, except when it's (D)ifferent, I guess).
It also makes no consideration for disbursement patterns, which often means forced gerrymandering (which is wrong, except when it's (D)ifferent, I guess).
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:25 am to lake chuck fan
quote:Correct.
If I am understanding correctly(at times I don't..lol)they are wanting to change the physical lines of the districts in order to include more black majority districts. I doubt there is any fair way to do this without either side not complaining of bias.
In Louisiana, the demographic in question is scattered so widely that it is difficult (outside New Orleans) to find concentrations heavy-enough to create a guaranteed district without gerrymandering to an unacceptable extent.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:32 am to BigJim
So representation needs to be based on the amount of melanin you have in your skin? What about other groups?
Are 50% of the reps women?
Is each age group represented proportionally?
Hispanics ar 5% of their population…should they get half a district?
What a stupid ruling. Wasn’t Robert’s the one that said in order to stop everything being about race we just need to stop making everything about race?
Are 50% of the reps women?
Is each age group represented proportionally?
Hispanics ar 5% of their population…should they get half a district?
What a stupid ruling. Wasn’t Robert’s the one that said in order to stop everything being about race we just need to stop making everything about race?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:32 am to MFn GIMP
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It's absurd to think that only black people can be represented by a black person.
Well, that kind of holds true in Louisiana.
Even when Louisiana’s legislature was more evenly balanced between parties, white Democrats would not vote for black candidates in majority Democratic districts.
So, the question shouldn’t be whether only black people can represent other black people properly. It should be why they couldn’t represent other racial demographics in their own political party in districts that traditionally favored people within their own party.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:42 am to SquatchDawg
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So representation needs to be based on the amount of melanin you have in your skin? What about other groups?
I sat in a meeting where a county commission was drawing new district lines after the census... The "minority" commissioner continuously argued that his district had to be 51% black - that it could not be 49% black, 6% hispanic, 2% other, and 43% white as it was drawn...
"Has to be black" over and over...
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:44 am to The Maj
quote:Even if you accept the VRA as being constitutional, he clearly does not understand the case law.
I sat in a meeting where a county commission was drawing new district lines after the census... The "minority" commissioner continuously argued that his district had to be 51% black - that it could not be 49% black, 6% hispanic, 2% other, and 43% white as it was drawn...
"Has to be black" over and over...
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:46 am to BigJim
I actually don’t like the ruling, however, I am in favor of justices going with their true, legal beliefs rather than find a way to lean to their respective parties.
That is the way it should be - they are not elected to represent a district. They are chosen (harshly I may add) to judge within the law. That is a massive responsibility.
I’ve never understood getting so upset that a judge goes against their political beliefs - that is not what they are there for.
That is the way it should be - they are not elected to represent a district. They are chosen (harshly I may add) to judge within the law. That is a massive responsibility.
I’ve never understood getting so upset that a judge goes against their political beliefs - that is not what they are there for.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:47 am to AggieHank86
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he clearly does not understand the case law.
He didn't and he kept arguing with the rep from the company that had been charged with redrawing the district lines after the census...
He kept trying to explain that with the laws concerning drawing district lines (recognizable landmarks - streets, streams, etc) there was not way to make his district any more black than it currently was...
He didn't care and made a huge stink out of it for awhile.... The other commissioners were too scared to just go ahead and vote...
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