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re: Trump loses any economic debate---the numbers do not lie--GDP performing better now

Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:37 pm to
I’m sure most states losing their minds and shutting down over Covid had nothing to do with that
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:37 pm to
Well Q1 2017 was pre covid.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73556 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:37 pm to
Import more lead laced shite IBChinaman.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9509 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:38 pm to
Are you really this stupid? Comparing apples and oranges.
You must have bumped your head at some point today.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:38 pm to
This is not a faith matter requiring "belief".

It is simply fact. It is the numbers for the GDP.

Do you not believe facts when you see them?
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4598 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:39 pm to
OP doesn’t have a clue ….. gaslighting.

The current level of US Debt, including the unfounded liabilities, is slightly north of $200 Trillion …..
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:39 pm to
Ok, I see that it is a pure troll job. I'm out. There was little sense in engaging based solely on the OP. Now, that it's confirmed a troll, I'm not even remotely interested. I'll leave it to the rest of you guys to debate clear idiocy with a guy who just wants to make sure there aren't tariffs so he can profit off of slave labor.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124700 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:39 pm to
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I B Freeman
2024 is coming. I hope you've finally diversified your supply chain. If not, you've no one to blame but yourself.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:40 pm to
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I B Freeman


I B Stupid
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:40 pm to
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I B Freeman


Name a common household expenditure/bill that hasn't skyrocketed under the Biden admin. Just one. We'll wait.


GDP growth doesn't matter when everyone is being squeezed dry by inflation and COL increases. I couldn't care less about carefully tailored and crafted GDP numbers to promote a narrative, when every household expense has done nothing but climb climb climb
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Utter horseshitee. You can't find a single rational person that will say the economy is better now than under Trump.


Are you saying there are no rational people that believe the Gross Domestic Product of the United States has increased at a faster pace under Biden than it did under Trump??

What rational person could deny the numbers?
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18261 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Now let's the see pre covid economic numbers

Like when we had 3 fed rate decreases between aug 1 and Oct 31 of 2019, to artificially prop up our stagnating economy?

Here's some tweets that aged like milk



He got his 0% wish, and we're still recovering. Imagine if we had gone negative interest September of 2019, like he proposed
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 3:49 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:45 pm to
I don't believe Trump cultist gain any ground talking about US debt given how much Trump contributed to it.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20532 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:46 pm to
inflation?
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:47 pm to
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My 401k would argue otherwise.

Stock market is healthier now than it was then. By 2020 QE had turned it into a slot machine in some circus tent. They should have started QT by 2018. In 2020 Hertz declared bankruptcy and then went up $4 per share. The average 401k is still higher now than it was in 2019.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1446 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:47 pm to
A bunch of useless information that will not resonate with a middle class family drowning in inflation and higher cost of living.

Congrats for convincing Paul Krugman to vote dem tho.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30739 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:47 pm to
You have to be kidding or one of those guys that takes one puff of a joint and goes completely retarded afterward.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:50 pm to
Kidding about what??

The level of Gross Domestic Product in the USA--the ultimate measure of the economy?
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2580 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:51 pm to
Trumps GDP growth (average of 2.5) outpaced inflation in 2017, 2018, and 2019 (average of 2.1%).

Bidens GDP growth of 5.9 in 2021 and 2.1 in 2022 averages to 4.0. His inflation rates of 4.7 in 2021 and 7.0 in 2022 averages to 5.85%.

IB I know you say you are an economics guy, but that seems to me that one president averaged an expansionary GDP (Covid aside) while the other president averaged a recessionary GDP. But that you for just another example of number without context can say anything you want.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 3:53 pm
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