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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:26 am to BoogaBear
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greenworks
There’s your problem
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:39 am to RealDawg
Was part of a team looking at battery operated zero turns about 6-7 years ago. I wish I could remember the name, but I don't (I will look it up later if there is any interest). For us it wasn't elec/gas it was about sound level. While they were considerably quieter the reason we opted out of it was because they had a higher center of gravity that limited mowing on steeper slopes. My understanding is that that was resolved a few years later, but I have not used one personally.
I will say that one of the pros from places that were using them raved about was that everything was plug and play so repairs were quick and easy.
I will say that one of the pros from places that were using them raved about was that everything was plug and play so repairs were quick and easy.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:44 am to RealDawg
I just pay my lawn guy. He does a great job.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:51 am to Korkstand
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I hear ya, and I've had the same experience with some brands. I used to have a cheap craftsman drill and two batteries shite the bed real quick. I have dewalt stuff now and they are holding up really well. I've used some milwaukee tools in a machine shop that have been through the ringer and they still put out. I'm sure some have had these "good" brand batteries go bad far too soon, but overall they're quality and I think Ego is up there with them.
I have nothing to back it up, but I suspect Dewalt has some frickery going on lately. A couple years ago I needed a second drill. I have a Milwaukee that I use all the time that I love, but needed one to throw in a bag and take with me. Lowe's had the Dewalt brushless with charger and two batteries on sale for $100. I bought it and have been decently pleased.
My sister needed a drill recently, so I went looking. I saw the same exact drill on sale again with the charger and two batteries. She bought it. We got it unboxed and ready to use, but it is not anywhere close to the other. Looks are pretty much the same, but the feel of everything is completely different, and just......cheap.
If they cut corners like that on what you can see and touch, I don't know what they would do with the batteries. We will see how long this one lasts. She won't use it much, so it shouldn't matter anyway.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:03 am to RealDawg
I just bought two mowers last week: John Deere riding mower and a Ryobi 40V push mower. I looked at the Eco and Ryobi ZT riding mowers, but they just were not going to work for my yard. They both advise not to use it on anything more than a 15* slope and one reviewer said he used one on a 30* slope and it flipped over on him since all the weight is in the back.
The Ryobi 40V push mower is actually pretty impressive. I used it for a trim lap around my fence and driveway, as well as two islands of grass created between my driveway and fence. It folds and stands in the corner of garage for easy storage. The only drawback I saw was that it was so quiet my dogs were not afraid of it and would not get out of the way. I’m a big fan of Ryobi stuff and also have weed eater, blower, hedge trimmer, pole saw.
That being said, nothing cuts as good as a gas engine riding mower.
The Ryobi 40V push mower is actually pretty impressive. I used it for a trim lap around my fence and driveway, as well as two islands of grass created between my driveway and fence. It folds and stands in the corner of garage for easy storage. The only drawback I saw was that it was so quiet my dogs were not afraid of it and would not get out of the way. I’m a big fan of Ryobi stuff and also have weed eater, blower, hedge trimmer, pole saw.
That being said, nothing cuts as good as a gas engine riding mower.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:07 am to DivotBreath
Ryobi is my go to for everything but the push mower. They have some powerful blowers that are battery operated.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:12 am to DivotBreath
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The Ryobi 40V push mower is actually pretty impressive.
Got a 40V self propelled one and was very surprised how much it can cut on a single battery. I like how it increases RPMs in higher grass too. I live in Texas so not sure how it would do in LA when you have to cut your St. Augustine twice a week because of rain. Cuts my St. Aug just fine though
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:19 am to Macfly
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Good question regarding the life of the batteries since repeated charging cycles never return the batteries to their original output
I've been running my Ryobi push mower, weed eater, and leaf blower since 2016 on the same three batteries that came with them (one each) and I've still not experienced any noticeable degradation. They handle all my light work just fine. Batteries don't degrade at nearly the rate some of you think they do.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 5:22 pm to RealDawg
Recently, my John Deere walk-behind died after 17 years. No longer sustainable to repair. The previous year, my Stihl power head did the same. I ended up replacing both with a battery version: A Kobalt 80V mower.
I'm likely never going back. It's so much easier to use, and while the cut isn't as good, it's reasonably good.
I did have to buy an extra battery for ~$250 to make sure I could mow my lawn under all conditions.
The biggest drawback is that the model has been discontinued, so batteries are no longer being made. The batteries are still made by Greenworks, but they are not exactly compatible. Already I had to buy a reconditioned battery; they won't be available forever.
I'm not interested in a riding mower, but I would like something like the Toro Timecutter, which is a 30 inch walk-behind. It should be relatively easy to make one of those that would be economical enough.
JMHO.
I'm likely never going back. It's so much easier to use, and while the cut isn't as good, it's reasonably good.
I did have to buy an extra battery for ~$250 to make sure I could mow my lawn under all conditions.
The biggest drawback is that the model has been discontinued, so batteries are no longer being made. The batteries are still made by Greenworks, but they are not exactly compatible. Already I had to buy a reconditioned battery; they won't be available forever.
I'm not interested in a riding mower, but I would like something like the Toro Timecutter, which is a 30 inch walk-behind. It should be relatively easy to make one of those that would be economical enough.
JMHO.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 5:32 pm to Thorny
People saying Ego products suck because of their Ryobi/greenworks/other crappy brand mower sucks is funny.
Yeah, those brands suck. Ego doesn't suck. It's not perfect but is it so much more convenient to use over a gasser. No oil changes, no fuel, no spark plugs, no carb cleanings/changes. Even my Honda needs a spark plug and oil change every year at minimum.
It doesn't bog down as easy as a residential gas mower in rough weeds, I didn't believe it until I saw it either and most of you just haven't seen it yet.
Yeah, those brands suck. Ego doesn't suck. It's not perfect but is it so much more convenient to use over a gasser. No oil changes, no fuel, no spark plugs, no carb cleanings/changes. Even my Honda needs a spark plug and oil change every year at minimum.
It doesn't bog down as easy as a residential gas mower in rough weeds, I didn't believe it until I saw it either and most of you just haven't seen it yet.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 5:36 pm to armsdealer
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No oil changes, no fuel, no spark plugs, no carb cleanings/changes.
I have spent maybe 1hr total doing this on my Toro gas mower in 10 years
Posted on 4/28/23 at 6:32 pm to armsdealer
Agreed. My Ego mower is going on 6 years. Works great for my yard. Battery finally died at the end of last summer, so it made it 5 summers. Replacement 56v was around $275 or so. I will gladly pay that every 5 years for no hassle startup. The blower is just as old and the battery is still kicking.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 6:58 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:Assuming you mow at an absolute bare minimum 20 times per year, that's 3600/200 = 18 seconds per mow dealing with fuel and maintenance. You're quick baw.quote:I have spent maybe 1hr total doing this on my Toro gas mower in 10 years
No oil changes, no fuel, no spark plugs, no carb cleanings/changes.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:05 pm to RealDawg
Stay away....dont let the progs get a hold of this market too!
Bought a $200 battery weadeater....does NOT finish my yard!
Never Again.
Bought a $200 battery weadeater....does NOT finish my yard!
Never Again.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:06 pm to Korkstand
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Assuming you mow at an absolute bare minimum 20 times per year, that's 3600/200 = 18 seconds per mow dealing with fuel and maintenance. You're quick baw.
Fuel vs charging/changing batteries is probably about a wash.
I change the oil and air filter in my mower maybe once every two years. Takes 10 minutes.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:21 pm to oldskule
quote:You either have a huge yard or you bought a shitty trimmer. My Ego trimmer with the smallest battery they sell does two lots totaling ~1.5 acres, dozens of trees to trim around, several thousand feet of fence line, two houses, sidewalk trimming, etc with plenty of battery to spare.
Bought a $200 battery weadeater....does NOT finish my yard!
Never Again.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:33 pm to fallguy_1978
Everybody must have had WAY different experiences with their gas powered shite than I did.
I have troubleshot and rebuilt way too many small engine carbs and fuel lines / filters in my life.
Began replacing my gas stuff with battery powered 3-4 years ago and haven't looked back. Just grabbing a battery and going, without having to fuel up each thing is amazing. (Do I have mixed fuel? Do I need to mix some or run to the hardware store? The fricking no ethanol gas station is only open M-F? God, I hope I can pull start this SOB today.) frick all that nonsense.
I have troubleshot and rebuilt way too many small engine carbs and fuel lines / filters in my life.
Began replacing my gas stuff with battery powered 3-4 years ago and haven't looked back. Just grabbing a battery and going, without having to fuel up each thing is amazing. (Do I have mixed fuel? Do I need to mix some or run to the hardware store? The fricking no ethanol gas station is only open M-F? God, I hope I can pull start this SOB today.) frick all that nonsense.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:39 pm to Sheep
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Everybody must have had WAY different experiences with their gas powered shite than I did.
I bought all new lawn equipment when we bought this house 10 years ago. I've never done anything to my Toro mower other than change the oil and air filter a few times. Well, maybe the spark plug once or twice too. It starts on 1-3 pulls even after sitting up during the winter.
Ecco weed eater. I've never done anything to it maintenance wise. It might take me a minute to get started occasionally. I just run Trufuel in it so no mixing. I might go through 2 cans per year.
My neighbor has a Stihl battery mower. I've cut his grass with it a few times when he was away and I wasn't a fan. I'd much rather a gas mower.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:05 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:I know we aren't talking about large quantities of time here in either case, but these two are not even close. The regular yard tools take 3 seconds to move the battery from the charger to the tool and another 3 from tool to charger. The riding mower comes with a wall mount charger so you just plug it in leaving the batteries in the mower, so maybe 5 seconds. I have a gas zero turn currently and it takes at least 15 seconds to fill the tank. Then I either have to make a special trip to the gas station once a month or so or remember to put the tank in the truck and fill it next time I go, so that's a minimum of another minute and sometimes 5-10 minutes per 4-ish mows. We are *well* past 5 seconds here and into at least 30 second range per mow just dealing with fuel.
Fuel vs charging/changing batteries is probably about a wash.
Again, I know 30 seconds isn't much, but it is at least 5X longer than putting a battery on charge and I wouldn't call that a wash.
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