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Why I, as a populist, changed my mind on the Ukraine.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:45 pm
I have Ukraine flag fatigue. The flag is about as repulsive to me as the masks, but I understand our need to be there, and it’s not for the Ukrainian’s. At least not primarily. Otherwise, why not help Yemen?
We need this war to deplete the Russian military while sharpening our saw (weapons). The result will be a less robust Russian-Chinese alliance. You think it’s bad now? Imagine getting knocked to second place. The global village is a Godforsaken Jungle where might makes right.
I’d have so much more respect if Desantis, Trump, or Vivek would say the quiet part out loud stop pissing down our legs and telling us it’s raining.
It’s not a gentleman’s game. If we don’t keep our alpha status, we will feel it in our pocket book, safety, etc.
We need this war to deplete the Russian military while sharpening our saw (weapons). The result will be a less robust Russian-Chinese alliance. You think it’s bad now? Imagine getting knocked to second place. The global village is a Godforsaken Jungle where might makes right.
I’d have so much more respect if Desantis, Trump, or Vivek would say the quiet part out loud stop pissing down our legs and telling us it’s raining.
It’s not a gentleman’s game. If we don’t keep our alpha status, we will feel it in our pocket book, safety, etc.
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Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:47 pm to joydivision
Go frick yourself, neocon boot licker. 
This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 6:50 am
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:50 pm to joydivision
You go fight on their front lines then.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:50 pm to joydivision
You should go over there and fight for your principles.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:51 pm to joydivision
Problem is, we are sending old shite. We aren’t testing anything worth a damn.
I almost bought in to that narrative as well. That’s the new gimmick to keep us in line.
We are going to find out how good our advanced tech is with Taiwan.
And we aren’t depleting anything but Soviet era tanks helicopters and planes. Bc that’s all they are using. On purpose.
I almost bought in to that narrative as well. That’s the new gimmick to keep us in line.
We are going to find out how good our advanced tech is with Taiwan.
And we aren’t depleting anything but Soviet era tanks helicopters and planes. Bc that’s all they are using. On purpose.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:52 pm to joydivision
This war is not depleting the Russian military. When Ukraine falls, the Russians will have the weapons that Brandon sent.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:53 pm to joydivision
We shouldn’t have a dog in this fight unless Congress declares war. There’s a reason the constitution requires the legislature to do it, because it’s a big deal.
You’re right. It’s not a gentleman’s game. Right now it’s a conman’s game, and too many people are falling for it.
You’re right. It’s not a gentleman’s game. Right now it’s a conman’s game, and too many people are falling for it.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:56 pm to joydivision
I’m supporting you on one specific point, and it doesn’t even get into the substance of the matter.
I applaud your willingness to change your mind and the willingness to be open and unapologetic about it. That’s the sign of a mature critical thinker. Hear hear.
I applaud your willingness to change your mind and the willingness to be open and unapologetic about it. That’s the sign of a mature critical thinker. Hear hear.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:57 pm to joydivision
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Why I, as a populist, changed my mind on the Ukraine.
I did too once I fully understood the matter. We tried to frame it as a battle of ideas (De-Nazification, corruption, biolabs, etc.). This war is nothing more than a battle of geography and strategic blocking positions. Unfortunately, two of those blocking positions are in the yards of our allies (Poland and Romania). I give precisely zero fricks about that corrupt shithole Ukraine. I just don't want us in a shooting war with Russia over NATO allies. If we can stop the Russian advance with some donated tanks and Ukrainian bodies, I'm fine with that.
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:00 pm to joydivision
I always wondered what do we gain by depleting the Russian military.
I always wondered what do we gain by being in Afghanistan.
I always wondered what do we gain by beating the shite out of the Iraqi military.
I always wondered what do we gain by being in Afghanistan.
I always wondered what do we gain by beating the shite out of the Iraqi military.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:03 pm to Chief One Word
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I always wondered what do we gain by depleting the Russian military.
It keeps them from rolling into Poland and Romania, thus pulling us into the conflict.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:04 pm to Tantal
quote:Aren’t we pulled into the conflict right now?
It keeps them from rolling into Poland and Romania, thus pulling us into the conflict.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:05 pm to LRB1967
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This war is not depleting the Russian military. When Ukraine falls, the Russians will have the weapons that Brandon sent.
The gypsies are going to have a field day selling off all our billions in gadgets we sent over there. Just like Afghanistan there will be zero accountability.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:06 pm to joydivision
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have Ukraine flag fatigue
The blue stands for the sky and the gold stands for wheat.
No more wheat and smoldering skies.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:10 pm to Tantal
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It keeps them from rolling into Poland and Romania, thus pulling us into the conflict.
Russia isn’t that stupid. They’re smart though because they’ll beat the shite out of Ukraine and instead of NATO being at russias door step, Russia will be at NATOs door step.
Then you’ll see one of these NATO countries do something stupid and we’ll get pulled in. If not Biden being embarrassed as frick and doing something stupid.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:17 pm to FooManChoo
Zero boots on the ground in Ukraine but you could buy what the likes of Tucker and his guests have said and believe that NATO has its trained units all over Ukraine. The Russians actually believe it.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:23 pm to FooManChoo
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Aren’t we pulled into the conflict right now?
Just in money. Not in blood. We can always make more money. We can't get soldiers and Marines back once they're dead. If the West can stop Russia with donated equipment and Ukrainian blood (it IS their country after all), then so be it. What I don't want to see is a single drop of American blood spilled in another of Europe's wars.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:32 pm to joydivision
I hope your were paid more than 50 cents for your shite post.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:32 pm to captdalton
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You should go over there and fight for your principles.
If he’s a populist he doesn’t have any.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:43 pm to joydivision
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We need this war to deplete the Russian military while sharpening our saw (weapons). The result will be a less robust Russian-Chinese alliance.
Yeah go frick yourself you neocon prick. You’re no populist.
It’s this stupid Ukraine policy that’s driving the Russia China alliance in the first place.
We’re wasting money and people’s lives, making the world a more dangerous place, and doing massive long term damage to ourselves.
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